Getting Skeptical About Woo Juice Part 1:For The Credulous Asshole Troll- Neil C. Reinhardt

Posted on September 2, 2011. Filed under: Astrology and Related Bunk, Atheism, Atheist Ethics, Humour, Internet Etiquette, Personal, Science, Trolls |

Last week I wrote a eulogy to one of my personal heroes who died of cancer.  Regardless of the political views of my readers and Canadians in general, most people are happy to agree that Jack Layton was a very special human being- someone worthy of a fond farewell.

I would like to point out that I have more than a few readers who hold political views in diametric opposition to Jack’s vision- and each and every one of those people had the courtesy to let my post stand as a testament to someone they knew I respected deeply.  I might have even tolerated a right wing diatribe about how my “pinko socialist” hero was plotting to ruin Modern Western Civilization.  Jack would have liked that.  Being accused of being “unrealistic”, “utopian”, and “socialist” would have made him proud.

Meet The Troll

Enter Neil C. Reinhardt- a professional atheist troll who spouts pathetic and misguided conspiracy theories because people don’t believe that he has stumbled across a MLM (Multi Level Marketing- aka Pyramid scheme) product that cures every single ailment known to man.  He rails against “skeptics” for not making the effort to credulously accept that his “miracle tropical beverage”  can cure any and every known disease and symptom.  Skepticism is to be lauded until it bumps heads with his faith in fruit juice. Fruit juice that apparently tastes like licking testicle sweat off of a turd. (That is how you know it works- why else would people ingest such foul tasting swill?)

Neil apparently thinks that a very personal post about a very personal subject is the perfect place to insert his delusional ramblings about how the medical establishment are covering up the cure-all effects of ingesting and topically applying the fruit juice equivalent of equine effluent.  Apparently I’m to assume that his 15 year foray into faith-healing is supposed to make me run out and buy his snake oil.  Here is the blathering, disjointed ramblings deposited in the comment section of my post:

What makes me both Sad & MAD is if the Lame Stream Media is not in some kind of a conspiracy between them Doctors and Drug companies, he may still be alive!  IF you know another way to discribe how a “Natural Healing Miracle” which very effectively treats and/or cures over 90 different injuries and illnesses both on the insides and the outsides of our bodies is NOT widely known?

For FIFTEEN YEARS i have been drinking daily & when needed, using topically. what I consider to be a true MIRACLE!  (And it is a “Junior Miracle” when this Agnostic Atheist Activist calls any thing a “miracle.”)  For some FOURTEEN Years I have tried over and over again to get some news organization do the necessary in-depth research to verify what is so good it even after 15 years,  AMAZES ME!

There are some 300 brands out there, this is not a ad, it is VALUABLE information.  It is the juice of a fruit grown in the tropics all around the world and thus has many names. The one it is most known as NONI JUICE!  I am 76, started drinking it when I was 62 and I have NOT had any of the typical Aches and Pains of age since! Still do not need eye glasses, no more sore muscles or any Flu. Better Sleep and Dreams, STOPS the pain of burns when it is applied!

And, drinking Noni Juice will decrease a persons desire to smoke to where they have NO Desire left!   My experience is that it is around 80% as effective as morphine for pain and it BOOSTS our immune systems OVER  150%!!  So can someone give me a good reason WHY something which many MILLIONS KNOW what I have said about it is true is NOT as well known as I sumit somthing this great should be?  I believe if every person did know all about the really fantastic things Noni Juice does, the Drug companies would lose MANY TRILLIONS of Dollars!

I’ve decided that rather than just deleting his comment and writing it off as just a socially inept faux pas by a crotchety old man on the verge of dementia, I would take the time to give his post the proper skeptical treatment it deserves.  Let’s begin, shall we?

What makes me both Sad & MAD is if the Lame Stream Media is not in some kind of a conspiracy between them Doctors and Drug companies, he may still be alive!

First thing is first- If you want someone to take you seriously, don’t call the media the “Lame Stream Media”, that’s so five years ago.  

There is no conspiracy between the media, doctors and drug companies.  If a natural product is proven to have real medical benefit, drug companies will formulate and patent drugs using it as a main ingredient and in the process line their pockets with billions more dollars.  Maybe they will argue that the FDA or other regulatory agency should consider the natural product questionable for consumption (see Stevia)- then I might see a conspiracy.  As it stands, drug companies are only too happy to harness the power of miracle drugs- for better or for worse.

Doctors have to be careful how they present products to patients.  Unlike you, Neil, they have professional licenses that prevent them from just making shit up.  They actually have to be forthright and honest about what the proven effects of products are, they can’t just shout in ALL CAPS that it is fan-fucking-tastic!!!  My doctor, for instance, suggested once that I take St. John’s Wort- and rightly described it as a mild anti-depressant

As for the “Lame Stream Media”, rest assured that there are plenty of woo peddlers out there- and the LSM is only too happy to oblige them.  Just because none of them have shouted from the rooftops in support of your brand of horseshit does not mean it will never happen.  Rest assured, some pathetic research lackey at a major network will be rushed for a segment for the evening newscast and stumble across your “miracle-piss” one of these days.

Can I ask you this you credulous half-witted ass-hat: What cancer did Jack Layton die of?  Do you even know?  What makes you think that fruit juice could have averted his death?  We will get to the specifics of this claim in my follow up post.

IF you know another way to discribe how a “Natural Healing Miracle” which very effectively treats and/or cures over 90 different injuries and illnesses both on the insides and the outsides of our bodies is NOT widely known?

Does your fruit juice cause you to lose the ability to form proper sentence structure, Neil?  Should we put that on the warning label?  Specifically, which of the 90 different ailments did Jack suffer from?  I call bullshit.

For FIFTEEN YEARS i have been drinking daily & when needed, using topically. what I consider to be a true MIRACLE!  (And it is a “Junior Miracle” when this Agnostic Atheist Activist calls any thing a “miracle.”)  For some FOURTEEN Years I have tried over and over again to get some news organization do the necessary in-depth research to verify what is so good it even after 15 years,  AMAZES ME!

Srsly? FIFTEEN years?  Holy mother of God incarnate!  I would have just been like “Oh, tl;dr, who gives a flying…” but since you put it in ALL MOTHERFUCKING CAPS like that, it totally seems amazing!! I’ve gone 15 years before with no major health issues, but FIFTEEN YEARS- shit, that is like the same amount of time-but better- cause you shouted it in ALL CAPS!!!

I’m getting a little verklempt….talk amongst yourselves, I’ll give you a topic. Neil C. Reinhardt is neither agnostic nor an activist…..discuss.

There are some 300 brands out there, this is not a ad, it is VALUABLE information.  It is the juice of a fruit grown in the tropics all around the world and thus has many names. The one it is most known as NONI JUICE!  I am 76, started drinking it when I was 62 and I have NOT had any of the typical Aches and Pains of age since! Still do not need eye glasses, no more sore muscles or any Flu. Better Sleep and Dreams, STOPS the pain of burns when it is applied!

And, drinking Noni Juice will decrease a persons desire to smoke to where they have NO Desire left!   My experience is that it is around 80% as effective as morphine for pain and it BOOSTS our immune systems OVER  150%!!

I’m glad, Neil, that this is not an ad- because if it was- it would be the equivalent of parking a sausage cart outside a PETA convention.  VALUABLE, when spelled in ALL-CAPS, must have a different meaning than “valuable”- since one can hardly call the information you offer even “somewhat helpful”.

I’ going to, for the sake of fairness, investigate your claims about the tropical swill known as Noni Juice.  You do want us “skeptics” to be “skeptical”, right?  To not just brush aside a claim but honestly and forthrightly investigate it, correct?  Or are you saying that people should be rightly skeptical of some things, like Gods, but ignorantly credulous whenever you cough out a personal anecdote? My next post will cover this in more depth, but let’s have an overview, shall we?

Noni Juice- The Slightly Useful Juice From A Mildly Useful Fruit

Noni (M. citrifolia) is a tropical tree related to the coffee plant.  The tree bears fruit all year round with a disgustingly foul odor while ripening.  It is affectionately known to locals as “cheese fruit” or “vomit fruit” since the fruit smells vaguely like a teenager’s unwashed socks after drunkenly stumbling through the puke stained hallways of a week-long house party.  Sounds tasty already!

Turns out, the fruit is primarily considered a famine food, used by people only when they are so hungry that they would eat just about anything- one step below eating half rotten rat carcasses but one step above drinking goat urine.   Some cultures use the fruit as a staple food, and almost all cultures in M. citrifolia’s indigenous range use it for the purposes of traditional medicine.  I intend to write a follow up post that discusses this at more depth.

Neil says that noni juice is a cure all for various ailments that he has never experienced since sacrificing his taste buds to woo.  What he doesn’t tell you is that he is a very active senior- someone who has various other reasons not to expect poor health.  Noni is just the woo that gets the false positive.  Let’s look at his laundry list of claims:

  • No aches and pains of age- Physically active seniors do not experience “aches and pains” in either degree or frequency as compared with sedentary seniors.  Unless you can offer several comparative studies or have a parallel universe twin who does everything else the same save drink Woo Juice, this claim means nothing.
  • Still do not need eye glasses- Yeah…about that- my 83 year old grandfather had smoked since he was 8 years old and had subsisted on a diet of fast food for roughly 20 years.  He died last spring, but he never needed glasses.  His eyesight was sharper than mine, 50 years his junior.  Does that mean that Big Macs- or Big Macs combined with Marlboros- are the key to great eyesight?
  • No more sore muscles- Again, regular exercise acclimatizes muscles to regular strain.  I played football for 6 years and had few if any muscle aches, but when I got a desk job I was in pain from carrying my toddler.  When I started exercising regularly again, my muscle pain stopped, and I can now take a two and a half hour hike with my now seven year old son on my shoulders and not feel a thing.
  • No flu- Anecdotally, my grandmother (84 years young) has not had the flu in 25 years.  She doesn’t drink noni juice- though she does drink brandy infused with garlic every morning.  I bet that tastes better than your vomit-fruit smoothies.
  • Stops the pain of burns- Yeah, water does that too.  I consider the covalent bond of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom to be a “Junior miracle”….next.
  • Reduces desire to smoke- So does brushing one’s teeth.  At least that tastes good and prevents cavities.
  • Your experience as a morphine substitute-  Here is where it gets interesting, because you said earlier that you have been in top shape since taking Magic Woo Juice, yet you have direct experience using it as a painkiller?  Orly?
  • Boosts Immune System- This is classic woo code for “It does something, but I don’t want to get specific”.  If you did get sick, then you would have been sicker.  If you get sick often, you would have been sick oftener.  It is a phrase that means absolutely nothing. 150% implies that you have data to back this up.  Do explain….

So can someone give me a good reason WHY something which many MILLIONS KNOW what I have said about it is true is NOT as well known as I sumit somthing this great should be?  I believe if every person did know all about the really fantastic things Noni Juice does, the Drug companies would lose MANY TRILLIONS of Dollars!

I can give you a good reason Neil.  Because your claims are anecdotal and not backed by any reputable research or science.  What studies have been done on Vomit-Fruit Juice have shown it to be not much better than placebo in treating various illnesses.  It is a scam, one that you believe because you invested you hard earned money in.   But I’m a generous guy.  I’m about to give your swill the treatment it deserves. My next post will be a compilation of all the unfounded claims and scientific information I can gather on your unpalatable Magic Woo Swill.  I’ll make it my life’s work to get my post on noni juice to page one on a Google search.

You, Neil C. Reinhardt, are a credulous asshole troll, and you barked up the wrong fucking tree.


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134 Responses to “Getting Skeptical About Woo Juice Part 1:For The Credulous Asshole Troll- Neil C. Reinhardt”

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LMFAO! this guy just graced my page a day or so ago claiming that he has received unsolicited complements on his logic. I noticed he posted a comment on my page that was identical to one on an atheist blog (fribnitsworld.wordpress.com) I just started reading. His website on that page was a link to his **lmao** vomit-juice smoothies and on mine it was to fret.org and I assumed stammers were just getting more clever. Frib informed me that I was mistaken that this pant-load is an actual person. Wow. I had banned him initially because I consider that spam (multiple identical comments), but later because I didn’t know if I could keep myself from (unchristianly) ridiculing him. I mean, that would be such a poor witness. But now I am reconsidering the ban. Maybe the entertainment value is worth it.

On a side note, when I say lmao, that is a literal condition I am experiencing. This post was funny as hell.

I’m hoping I can have a “conversation” with him. Really.
You should have googled his name. This guy is a prolific troll.
I’ll link some of the better ones into the post…..

I did see those comments, John. I cringed when the last one came into my email this morning in all caps, “CHILD”. If I could tear myself away from Real Life for more than a few moments at a time these days, he seems like the kind of troll I could really have some fun with. I’m sure you guys will do fine on your own, however.

What an insensitive bullshit thing to do, spamming your juice ads on a post honoring Jack Layton. What an incredibly tone-deaf, self-serving, vulture-like thing to do.

I’m glad you’re taking this shit-eater down, man.

FIRST CHILD COME CALL ME NAME TO MY FACE AND I WILL KICKE YOUR ASS.

SECOND, YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT OR RATIONAL OR INFORMED ENOUGH TO GIVE ME AN ARGUMENT WORTH MY TIME,

THIRD,

HOW CUTE

ANOTHER RETARD WHO IS TOO LAZY TO DO THE RESEARCH TO GET THE FACTS (AND MOST PROBABLY TOO STUPID TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTS IF HE DID GET THEM) IS HEARD FROM,

IF YOU EVEN HAD A CLUE, (& YOUR COMMENTS PROVE YOU DO NOT) YOU WOULD KNOW NONI JUICE HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVELY USED FOR OVER 5,000 YEARS.

YOU WOULD KNOW IT’S GROWN IN TROPICAL AREAS ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND IT HAS MANY NAMES.

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DRINK IT EVERY DAY & USE USE IT TOPICALLY WHEN NEEDED.

I HAVE USED TO CURE ATHLETES FOOT IN LESS THAN HALF THE TIME AS ANY OTHER TREATMENTS I EVER USED.

I WAS A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE AS WELL AS A DEEP SEA DIVER AND A PARATROOPER. A MANUFACTURING SUPERVISOR FOR MAGNAVOX & NCR AND AN INDUSTRIAL ENGINEER FOR XEROX,

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ASIDE FROM MAKING STUPID COMMENTS ON THE INTERNET?

AND NONI JUICE CURED TOE NAIL FUNGUS WHEN NO PRESCRIPTION DRUGS DID,

NOT ONLY DOES NONI JUICE boost your immune system over 150 PERCENT, IT IS
around 80% as effective as Morphine is
in treating Pain!

Your immune system is boosted up to the point where it can Very Effectively Treat / Cure MANY different medical problems. (Over 90 of them!)

And Noni Juice not only works on the insides and the outsides of our bodies, it does the same for ALL other mammals, as well as ALL animals, reptiles and birds!
http://www.noniresearch.com

http://www.noni-is-good-for-you.com/

Noni Juice is os Good, nearly every single person who DOES drink enough of it long enough has VERY positive results!

http://yoga-star.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!
4346E14F8D0BE552!182.entry

I KNOW APPLYING NONI JUICE TO ANY BURNS INSTANTANEOUSLY STOPS THEIR PAIN. I DEFY YOU TO NAME ANY THING ELSE WHICH DOES THIS!

AS WELL AS BOTH SPEEDING THEIR HEALING AND AT LEAST REDUCING, IF NOT ELIMINATING ANY SCARING.

AND I DEFY YOU TO NAME ANYTHING
ELSE WHICH DOES THIS!

I USED NONI JUICE TO TREAT HOT FRYING PAN CONTACT BURNS, SUN BURNS & BURNS FROM HOT GREASE.

FOR 15 YEARS NOW, DRINKING NONI JUICE HAS STOPPED ME FROM, FROM GETTING THE FLU WHICH I USED TO GET EVERY YEAR. WHEN I STARTED DRINKING IT AT AGE 62, IT CAUSED ALL THE ACHES AND PAINS OF OLD AGE TO DISAPPEAR AND THEY HAVE NEVER RETURNED.

I DEFY YOU TO NAME ANYTHING
ELSE WHICH DOES THIS!

I WOULD DRINK NONI JUICE JUST FOR THE BETTER DREAMS I HAVE! I NO LONGER GET SORE MUSCLES AFTER PLAYING BEACH VOLLEYBALL OR FROM ANY EXERCISE,

AS IT ALSO GIVES ENERGY AND SPEEDS RECOVERY, MANY OLYMPIC, WORLD CLASS AND PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES SWEAR BY IT.

I DEFY YOU TO NAME ANYTHING
ELSE WHICH DOES THIS!

MANY DOCTORS DRINK NONI JUICE THEMSELVES AND PRESCRIBE IT TO OTHERS AS WELL TO THEIR OWN LOVED ONES.

DRINKING NONI JUICE CAUSES SMOKERS TO TOTALLY LOSE THEIR DESIRE TO SMOKE. THUS NONI JUICE IS AN EASY, SIMPLE, NO HASSLE WAY TO STOP SMOKING!

I DEFY YOU TO NAME ANYTHING
ELSE WHICH DOES THIS!

SO RETARD, GO WALLOW IN YOUR IGNORANCE & SUFFER NEEDLESSLY
WHILE THOSE OF US WHO ARE WISE
ENOUGH TO KNOW THE TRUTH BOTH DRINK & USE NONI JUICE TOPICALLY!

OR, TRY SOME THING NEW FOR YOU,
IT IS CALLED, “LEARNING” READ THE INFORMATION IN THE URL’s I posted above:

Topically? Like rub it on your hemroids?

Hey Neil,
You pathetic crotchety old twit. Thanks for giving me more ammunition to lay waste to your unreasonable claims. I’ll be able to use those links to help dispel most every claim you have made thus far. My follow up post will be a more thorough refutation of your Vomit Flavored Woo Juice thanks to your unyeilding arrogance.
I thought you said doctors were in cahoots witht he drug companies and Lame Stream Media? Now they are recommending it to patients? ORLY?
I’m going to make you look more retarded than you have ever been able to do on your own- and believe me- you have thusfar done a fantastic job on your own. I’m going to harness all my energy to make anyone searching your product find my site refuting your claims with a simple google search.
You pissed off the wrong skeptic.

AND IF YOU WERE NOT A STUPID, ILLOGICAL PUNK, YOU WOULD KNOW MY POSTING INFORMATION ON NONI JUICE IS DONE TO HELP OTHERS AS I DO NOT ONCE SUGGEST ANYONE GET IT FROM ME!

NOR DO I EVEN MENTION THE NAME OF THE COMPANY I AM WITH. ONLY YOU ARE TOO MUCH OF A RETARD TO PICK UP ON THAT

Hey Fucktard,
You link to the MLM site that you pissed away your hard earned money on- you do it every time you comment. Your name is hotlinked to the scam site. If you would prefer that I keep you honest, I’ll happily break all the links to your site- let me know.

YOU ARE SO STUPID, YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT A TROLL IS!

LOOK IT UP CHILD!

————–

HEY “SINNED”

BE GLAD I AM NOT A SHIT EATER AS A BIG A BAG OF TOTAL SHIT AS YOU ARE WOULD BE LONG GONE!

[...] fact a real person, I lost a bit of respect for humanity.  It was regained, however, when I read this post by George, author of Misplaced Grace, a blog everyone needs to read.  I don’t know if I was [...]

BAHAHAHAHA!!

He left that same informercial in my 3 Questions post!!

Know what’s interesting? He just spammed me via the email button on my blog.

Religion Sucks Religionsucks@webtv.net to jason
show details 9:14 PM (0 minutes ago)

SO JASON,

SO WERE YOU GOING TO MAKE A STUPID AND TOTALLY UNINFORMED COMMENT ABOUT
ME AS WELL AND YOU COULD NOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THE COMMENT FORM?

I thank You for your time.

Please, Take Care!

Neil C Reinhardt

“A 76 year old Pro Iraq War Agnostic Atheist Activist, a former member
of management in some of America’s Top 500 corporations, 101st Airborne
Vet, and an Iconoclastic, Philosophizing, Crime Stopping, Women Chasing
(and Catching) Scuba and Deep Sea Diving, Spelunking, Lifeguarding,
Paratrooping, Spring Board Diving, Bungee Jumping, Fire Walking. Beach
VolleyBall Playing, Grumpy Old Son Of A Beach!”

I’m guessing here — just guessing — but I suspect he’s actually *looking* to drum up outrage. I suspect that the more skeptics he convinces to cover him, the more Streissand Effect hits he gets.

I’m just glad his ridiculous bullshit is so self-evidently ridiculous.

150% boost in immune system, huh? How do you map “you have an immune system” vs “you don’t have an immune system” onto a scalar property, so as to improve it drastically beyond “exists”?

Here is the thing Jason: Everyone else he has pissed off has just gone the route of ad hom attacks (which I intend to continue), and out of hand refutations of his silly claims. I intend to make a post that goes in depth into his claims and lays waste to them, backed by research, so that every person who googles “noni juice” will get my post in the top 4. I’m hoping that I can count on you to help vault my post high on a google search. I’m going to teach this fucker a lesson.

Don’t you worry. Once the series is through, I’ll link it all. I wonder if he’ll figure out how to use my comment field once there’s a post pointing to you on my blog.

So Georgew W, is this part of your REAL name OR are you
just another PUNK COWARD hiding behind their computer and attacking others?

Any and all who such things have NO Honor, NO Integrity & NO Courage. Just a bunch of Low Life LIARS!

And FYI CHILD, Not you or your entire little group of RETARDS can EVER find ONE Lie I have told.

So go in your own Jack Yard and Back Off with all your mentally challanged
friends.

I caught you inventing statistics! Does making things up count as lies? If so, I found 2 lies you’ve told.

John,
Let’s compare notes. I’ll happily give you credit.

See Neil,
You just don’t get it. Any and everyone can find my real name. It’s all over this blog and the web. Just because your noni juice doesn’t give you the intelligence to figure it out isn’t my fault.
Get ready for the shit storm Neil……

Hey RETARD,

You poor little thing you, it seems you do not understand what the word “IF” means. GO LOOK IT and then REREAD my comments on the media and a Noni Juice.

Of course you are so typical of whose who disagree with me as they suffer from a very decided lack of being able to read with sufficent comprehension to get
the message.

Yea Sure, Retard

Sure, all those people in all those tropical countries who have been using Noni Juice to effectively treat and/or cure all kinds of things for generation after generation for many THOUSANDS of years are ALL wrong and a totally ignorant asshole like you is right

Sure, the MILLIONS of people who drink Noni Juice every day are wrong and poor mentally challenged little you is right.

Sure. all of the Professional, World Class, and Olympic Athletes who swear by Noni Juice are all wrong and totally clueless you are right.

Sure. all of the doctors and other heath professionals who drink and use Noni Juce topically and prescribe it others are all wrong while totally clueless you are right

Sure. all of the pet and livestock owners and animal vets who swear by Noni Juice are all wrong and you, whose cognitive skills are in the gutter, are right.

Sure, TNI, whose phenomenal success is the main reason there are now some 300 brands of Noni Juice on the market must not have done what the facts prove they did because you are right.

Sure, those other 299 companies do not have a clue about business, took their resources and put out their own brands of Noni Juce are all brain dead while you are right.

Sure, TNI’s reaching TWO BILLION dollars in Sales (only selling their Noni Juice) in SEVEN years while it took MICROSOFT Eight years to reach One Billion dollars proves nothing because LITTLE RETARDED YOU, KNOW IT ALL!

Sure MLM a rip off and the more than
1,500 in TNI who have earned over a MILLION dollars each in commissions just do not know where the money came from.

Sure, MLM a rip off that is why Avon and Amway are still in business.

DAMN, YOU REALLY ARE ONE VERY IGNORANT AND ILLOGICAL ASSHOLE!

Thank you for giving me all the “facts” I need to make a third post, I’ll tentatively title it “Getting Skeptical About Woo Juice Part 3: Why Neil C Reinhardt thinks Astrology, Faith Healing, and God are all Real.

“You link to the MLM site that you pissed away your hard earned money on

YOU POOR IGNORANT LITTLE CHILD,
I AM EXTREMELY GLAD I SPENT THE MONEY TO JOIN THE COMPANY AS THE BENEFITS HAVE BEN MORE THAN WORTH IT.

SO, YOU ARE WRONG, (AGAIN)

“- you do it every time you comment.”

IT SEEMS YOU ARE SO STUPID AS TO THINK THE LINK WHICH CAN BE GOTTEN BY CLICKING ON THE PERSONS NAME IS PART OF WHAT THEY POST.

WELL IDIOT, IT IS NOT!

AS NO ONE EVEN SEES IT UNLESS THEY FREELY CHOSE TO CLICK ON IT.
IT IS NOT PART OF THE POST.

DUH!

THUS CHILD, YOU ARE WRONG (AGAIN!)

THE FOLLOWING ALSO PROVES YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!

“Your name is hotlinked to the scam site.

A COMPANY WITH TWO BILLION $$$ IN SALE IN SEVEN YEARS AND WHO HAS HAD OVER 1,500 PEOPLE EARN OVER ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN COMMISSIONS EACH IS NOT A SCAM!

A COMPANY WERE MY FRIENDS ARE ALL EARNING WELL OVER $50,000 A MONTH AND HAVE BEEN EARNING TENS OF THOUSANDS A MONTH FOR OVER TEN YEARS IS NOT A SCAM

SO YOU POOR LITTLE RETARD, YOU ARE, AS YOU HAVE AGAIN PROVEN YOU USUALLY ARE, WRONG!

————–

BARTON, YOU ARE A LYING BAG OF CHRISTIAN SHIT!

YOU HAVE NOT CAUGHT ME IN ANY LIES & YOU NEVER WILL.

BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY IGNORANT OF THE RESEARCH DONE AND YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, IN NO WAY NEGATES THE FACTS AND/OR ANYTHING I SAID.

PLUS, YOU CHILD ARE SO RETARDED, I DOUBT YOU CAN EVEN DEFINE WHAT A LIE IS!

(DON’T FEEL TOO BAD, AS VERY FEW LIBERALS HAVE A CLUE WHAT A LIE IS EITHER,)

Notice how Neil does not say he has made any good sum of money from his Woo Juice…..
Quite telling, no?
1500 people made over a million. Not Neil though.
His “friends” are earning more than $50,000 a month. Not Neil though.
If Neil were making good money, he’d be bragging it all over the internet. He’s not exactly “humble”.
This is classic pyramid scheme. Everyone else is a millionaire- everyone else is successful- Neil has been using this stuff for 15 years, selling it however long, and still only has third party anecdotes that you can get rich at it.
Go figure…..

Neil, remember your challenge to answer YOUR questions? Well, I did, I wrote an entire post on your persistant use of logical fallacies, and your two invented statistics (lies). It can be found here: http://truthinreligionandpolitics.com/2011/09/02/reinhardt-syndrome/

Hey Retard, I will call our media the Lame Stream media UNTIL they recover more of the honesty integrity they once had, ONLY SHEEP like you worry about if some thing is in style or not.

You Poor Child, WRONG AGAIN!

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE SPACE TO PROVIDE ALL THIS GREAT AND USEFUL FACTUAL INFORMATION! :-)

———-

GEORGE W. – YOU ARE A LIAR!

ONLY A LOW LIFE LIKE YOU, WOULD LIE AND SAY:

“Neil C, Reinhardt thinks Astrology, Faith Healing, and God are all Real”

AS I’VE NEVER SAID, NOR HAVE I EVER IMPLIED, ANYTHING OF THE SORT.

OF COURSE, WHEN YOU CAN NOT LOGICALLY AND/OR FACTUALLY PROVE I AM WRONG, YOU DO WHAT ALL THOSE WHO HAVE NO HONOR, NO INTEGRITY AND NO MORALS DO, YOU LIE!

YEP, YOU AND BARTON ARE SIMPLY LYING SCUM WHOSE LIES ARE HERE FOR ALL TO SEE.

YOU SAY I LIE AND YET YOU CAN NOT PROVIDE A SINGLE SHRED OF PROOF I HAVE,

IT SEEMS NOT YOU, OR ANY OF YOUR RETARDED LITTLE FRIENDS, HAVE YET LEARNED YOU SHOULD NOT GET IN TO “BATTLES OF WITS” WITH THOSE LIKE ME WHO ARE SO MUCH BETTER ARMED THAN YOU ARE.

NEIL

P.S. THE MAIN REASON I USE ALL CAPS IS BECAUSE IT PISSES ALL YOU RETARDS OFF! :-)

Oh,
Sad little Neil. Sad, sad, sad, sad, Neil. Here is the thing, Neil.
Your Vomit juice is obviously not keeping you from needing glasses. If you were able to read, John’s last name is BARRON, not Barton. Maybe that eyesight claim should be the first to go, no? Twice you got it wrong, twice.

We’ll get to the meat of the matter, you and I. I’m intent on making a strong case that your Woo Juice is a giant scam, with limited if any health benefits and responsible for fleecing people out of their hard earned money.
In the meantime, I’m quite happy to let your trollish behaviour continue to show you for what you truly are. If you think threats, insults and intimidation are selling your Woo Juice or driving people toward your MLM site you are horribly mistaken. You might as well be a diapered doomsday street preacher yelling toothless slurs in an effort to get people in the pews.
I’m going to ruin you.
I’m going to put an end to your pathetic bullying.
I’m going to make posts on your disgusting vomit juice that will turn every thinking person off of your product and the company you purport to represent.

Let’s you and I be clear on this. I’m giving you till Tuesday to post a public apology on my blog. Not only that, you are going to send one final e-mail to Jason, apologizing to him and assuring him that you will never bother him again. You will do the same for John Barron, either by e-mail or in the comment section of his blog. You will do this, because if you don’t I’m going to make your life very uncomfortable. You will apologize for being rude, abrasive, threatening, and for wasting our time. You don’t even have to retract any of your claims about your silly little Vomit Juice. I’ll let those stand, and I promise I will not delete your comment or break the link to your pyramid scheme.
So mull it over, because Wednesday by midnight all hell is going to break loose. You have my word. I’ll publish a post that will be well researched, factual, and not very flattering. I will make it an ongoing mission to do everything in my power to properly inform everyone who will listen about the kind of person you are, the overblown claims you spout, the nature and truth about the company you represent- and make you wish you had never met me.
What can I possibly do?
Just watch me…….

IT SEEMS YOU STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED YOU SHOULD NOT ENTER IN TO ‘BATTLES OF WITS’ WITH THOSE LIKE ME WHO ARE SO MUCH BETTER ARMED.

Sad little Neil. Sad, sad, sad, sad, Neil.

SAD?

SOMETIMES ‘YES’ & SOMETIMES ‘NO’

LITTLE? 5′ 10 1/2″ 20O + POUNDS

“Here is the thing, Neil. Your Vomit juice is obviously not keeping you from needing glasses. If you were able to read,” “John’s last name is BARRON, not Barton.”

SO, I MADE A ERROR ON HIS NAME!

BIG DEAL! CALL THE COPS!

HOLD A NEWS CONFERENCE,

NCR MADE AN LITTLE BITTY ERROR OF LITTLE CONSEQUENCE!

NOW, HOW ABOUT YOU?

YOU LIE! YOU KEEP PROVING YOU HAVE NO CLUE AS TO THE FACTS.

YOU ARE ALSO HELPING TO OVER POPULATE THE WORLD. FIVE KIDS? ONE HELL OF A LIBERAL YOU ARE!

“I’m intent on making a strong case that your Woo Juice is a giant scam, with limited if any health benefits and responsible for fleecing people out of their hard earned money.”

YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE IT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT TRUE.

SO RETARD, WASTE YOUR TIME!

“In the meantime, I’m quite happy to let your trollish behaviour continue to show you for what you truly are.”

WHAT I TRULY AM?

I’M AN EXTREMELY TRUTHFUL, HIGH HONOR, HIGH INTEGRITY PERSON WITH A GIFTED LEVEL IQ WHO HAS RISKED HIS PHYSICAL WELL BEING AND HIS LIFE FOR OTHERS MANY TIMES.

HAVE YOU EVER, EVEN ONE TIME, RISKED YOUR LIFE TO HELP OTHERS?

AS A LIFEGUARD, I HAVE SAVED MANY LIVES.

HOW MANY LIVES HAVE YOU SAVED>
IN THE NATIONAL GUARD AND/OR ACTIVE ARMY RESERVES I SERVED FOR SIX YEARS, ON ACTIVE DUTY, I SERVED IN REGULAR ARMY FOR OVER THREE YEARS, MOST OF THIS
TIME I WAS A PARATROOPER IN THE ELITE 101ST AIRBORNE.

HAVE YOU SERVED YOUR COUNTRY AT ALL?

“If you think threats, insults and intimidation are selling your Woo Juice or driving people toward your MLM site you are horribly mistaken. You might as well be a diapered doomsday street preacher yelling toothless slurs in an effort to get people in the pews.”

I INTIMIDATE OVER THE INTERNET?

TRY GETTING YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.

WHILE MOST OF YOU ARE TOO BRAIN DEAD TO GET A CLUE, THERE MAY BE SOME OPEN MINDED PERSON WHO READS THIS WHO REALIZES WHAT I SAY MAY HAVE SOME MERIT AND THEN CHOSE TO DO SOME IN-DEPTH RESEARCH AND FIND OUT NONI JUCIE IS WHAT I SAID IT WAS

“I’m going to ruin you.”

HA! HA! HA! YOU SO FUNNY

DREAM ON, PUNK!

I’m going to put an end to your pathetic bullying.

DREAM ON, PUNK!

“I’m going to make posts on your disgusting vomit juice that will turn every thinking person off of your product and the company you purport to represent.”

DREAM ON, PUNK!

ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY “THINKING PEOPLE” WILL REALIZE IT IS I WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH WHILE ALL YOU ARE DOING IS BLOWING HOT AIR.

Let’s you and I be clear on this. I’m giving you till Tuesday to post a public apology on my blog.

APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT? FOR MY BEING HONEST AND TRUTHFUL?

FOR MY TRYING TO HELP OTHERS BY SHARING WHAT MY EXPERIENCE AND STUDY HAS PROVEN TO ME MAKES ME HEALTHER & IMPROVES MY LIFE?

APOLOGIZE FOR MY STANDING UP TO CLOSE MINDED FOOLS, RETARDS & LIARS LIKE YOU AND THE REST OF YOUR TROGLODYTE FRIENDS ?

DREAM ON, PUNK!

“Not only that, you are going to send one final e-mail to Jason, apologizing to him and assuring him that you will never bother him again.”

THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

“You will do the same for John Barron, either by e-mail or in the comment section of his blog.”

NEITHER WILL THIS!

You will do this, because if you don’t I’m going to make your life very uncomfortable.

OH, I AM SO SCARED! I AM SHAKING IN FEAR!

LOOK RETARD, I HAVE BEEN A DEEP SEA & SCUBA DIVER, A BOUNCER IN A LARGE LAR AREA NITE CLUB, SPELUNKER,FOUGHT DANGEROUS FIRES, FACED DOWN RACISTS AND STOPPED SEVEN CRIMES IN PROGRESS.

ARE YOU REALLY SO ‘F” ING DUMB YOU ACTUALLY THINK A RETARD WOSSY NERD LIKE YOU SCARES ME?

“You will apologize for being rude, abrasive, threatening, and for wasting our time.”

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

“You don’t even have to retract any of your claims about your silly little Vomit Juice. I’ll let those stand, and I promise I will not delete your comment or break the link to your pyramid scheme.”

I CARE LESS IF YOU BREAK IT OR NOT
I CARE LESS IF PEOPLE GET NONI FROM ME OR FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

IF YOU HAD A FULLY FUNCTIONING BRAIN, (AND IT IS VERY OBVIOUS YOU DO NOT) YOU WOULD KNOW EVERY COMPANY IS A PYRAMID, SO IS THE
GOVERNMENT AND THE MILITARY, SO ARE SPORTS TEAMS AND GROUPS.

THE DIFFERENCE “OH SO ILLOGICAL AND SO VERY UNIFORMED ONE”, IS IF IT LEGAL OR NOT, IF IT LEGITIMATE BUSINESS OR NOT.

SINCE IT IS LEGAL & VERY LIGITMATE COMPANY, YOURE MOST WELCOME TO WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY ATTEMPTING TO PROVE WHAT IS TOTALLY UNPROVABLE.

“So mull it over, because Wednesday by midnight all hell is going to break loose. You have my word. (IT IS NOT WORTH MUCH) I’ll publish a post that will be well researched, factual, and not very flattering.”

LOOK CHILD, IF YOU HAD A CLUE, YOU WOULD KNOW I WOULD NOT USE MY REAL NAME IF I GAVE A RATS ASS WHAT SOME LOSER LIKE YOU CAN POST.

“I will make it an ongoing mission to do everything in my power to properly inform everyone who will listen about the kind of person you are,”

OH, YOU ARE GOING TO TELL THEM THE TRUTH? THAT I AM A BRAVE, PERSON WHO IS KNOWN FOR MY BEING MUCH MORE TRUTHFUL THAN MOST?, THAT I AM LOYAL, HONEST AND A GREAT FRIEND?

“the overblown claims you spout’

YOU ARE A LIAR AS THERE IS NOTHING ‘OVER BLOWN” IN WHAT I SAID NONI JUICE HAS DONE FOR ME.

“the nature and truth about the company you represent-”

YOU ARE GOING TO TELL THEM TNI
IS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD? ONE WITH TRULY PHENOMENAL GROW RATES?

ONE WHICH SELLS A BOTTLE OF THEIR NONI JUICE EVERY 1.6 SECONDS?

“and make you wish you had never met me.’

HELL, I ALREADY WISH THAT!

OH FEAR! OH PANIC! OH SCREAM!

I Am So NOT Scared At All.

“What can I possibly do?”

NOT MUCH AND I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU DO RETARD!

I AM CORRECT AND YOU ARE NOT!

IF YOU SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ME WHICH IS TRUE, I WILL MOST READILY ADMIT IT.

I TELL THE TRUTH IN ALL MATTERS!

YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ME?

PHIL LIVED IN A U.S. ARMY BARRACKS WITHIN 40 FEET OF ME FOR OVER TWO YEARS. HE KNOWS ME VERY WELL as we not only doing our military bit, we partied and chased women together.

(And as I have laid over 10 times more
ladies than has the
average American male, I did well at it as well.)

The following is what Phil Ronca sent me I served with Phil in “B” Battery, 321st FA, 101st Airborne.

“Neil,

You are one of the most honest and good men I know and I have always told every one so”

“You were always a good guy and with a good heart.”

—————-

SO RETARD, DID YOU GET the “HONEST” and the “GOOD” MAN?

You Get the “GOOD GUY”, WITH A “GOOD HEART”?

I JUST DO NOT SUFFER STUPID, CLOSE MINDED LIARS AND FOOLS LIKE YOU MUCH AT ALL!

——————-

Next George W.

YOU are really one extremely Illogical. Irrational and Brain Dead HYPOCRITICAL DOUBLE STANDARD PUNK!

YOUR Saying that I “intimidate” when I informed others IF they come call me names to my face, I will kick their ass,
(Just like the older marine in the videos below does.)

WHAT I SAID COMPARED TO YOUR THREATENING to “RUIN” ETC., ETC. ME?

To QUOTE YOU:

“I’m going to ruin you.” “I’m going to make your life very uncomfortable.”
“I will make” —- “you wish you had never met me.”

THEY PROVE YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER TYPICAL LIBERAL HYPOCRITE!

OR

http://www.truecrimereport.com/…/bus_fight_caught_on_tape_67-ye.php

How come Neil has not responded to my post which lays out what a poor thinker he is? Yet he continually shows up here? What am I doing wrong?

Subscribing to comments.

I am subscribing to comments.

Carry on.

How Funny! A Programmed Religious Robot who is unable to even answer YES & NO questions asked about his religion
accuses me of being a poor thinker.

If you want to see a VERY POOR THINKER, GO LOOK in the mirror!

————

FYI “NERD” GEORGE

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance.

That principle is condemnation without investigation.”
Herbert Spencer

——————
YOU & THE REST OF YOUR ILK ARE SO TOTALLY RETARDED YOU DO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING A “SKEPTIC” & BEING CLOSE MINDED FOOLS.

YOUR NOT SKEPTICS, YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED FOOLS!

WERE BEN FRANKLIN ALIVE TODAY, HE WOULD MAKE YOU AND YOUR FELLOW RETARDS “POSTER BOYS” FOR THE FOLLOWING:

“To condemn without investigation is
nothing but sheer foolishness.”

Ben Franklin

YOU SEE CHILDREN, I KNOW THE SUFFICIENT UN-BIASED RESEARCH WILL PROVE THAT EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID ABOUT NONI JUICE IS TRUE

I ALSO NO ONLY KNOW ALL WHO DO NOT BELIEVE ME WILL BE PROVEN WRONG, YOU WILL FIND I HAVE NOT LIED ABOUT A DAMN THING.

(OF COURSE, SOME OF YOU ARE SO RETARDED YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT A LIE IS.)

ATTN: GEORGE W. HERE IS MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU

TNI is ranked the 4th fastest growing company in history. Only Fedex, Google and Intel has topped TNI’S sales in their first 7 years in business.

TNI has generated over 4 billion dollars in revenue in just their first 11 years.

NOW, GO CRY IN YOUR MILK LIKE A GOOD LITTLE RETARD!

George,

I got an email directly from Noni Noni Neil himself. He asked me to read through this thread and respond in a way that proved my skeptical prowess.

Through alligator tears, he said you were going to ruin him. He said, “Pretty please. Please, oh please. I can’t go on alone. Help me Obi Won Jeremy.”

I read most of this thread of comments, and I can say, without a doubt, “Neil’s doing a great job ruining himself.”

Keep up the solid work, George.

Jeremy

Oh man, this is entirely too much fun. I wish I’d have spent the long weekend on this thread instead of brewing and drinking pale ale on my deck! (Well, maybe not completely)

I keep thinking that this Neil guy has got to be a Poe, but then I think of how my wife’s very intelligent grandfather started to act as dementia started decimating his mind, and this seems very familiar.

At one point, he picked up some pseudoscientific health book that he read like it was the Word Of God. Seriously, he carried that book around everywhere. I wish I could remember the name of the tome. Anyways, he used the book to convince himself that he’d never get sick and would essentially become immortal if he ate nothing but potting soil and acai juice. Thankfully, he’s now in a care facility, getting the help he needs. My guess is that Neil should shortly be in the room next to him.

At the very least, I’d say Neil is definitely the Dennis Markuze of bullshit fruit juice cure-alls. I’m just waiting for him to threaten to cut all our heads off.

Once your decimation post goes up, George, I suggest we try to get it linked on some big blogs like Pharyngula, Bad Astronomy and Lousy Canuck and Google-bomb the shit out of it. I love the smell of burning pyramid scheme in the morning!

clearly pretending to be an atheist/skeptic (TM) as if that means his woo claim will get by the smell test.

RN,

That’s possible, but not entirely necessary. I’m wary of throwing about the “no true atheist/skeptic” label, since being scientifically minded in one part of life doesn’t mean we apply proper critical thinking in all areas. I know atheists that swear by homeopathy and have fallen for 9/11 trutherism. Besides, don’t we hate it when Christians insist that because one of their own violated a supposed tenet of Christianity that the violator wasn’t “really a Christian”?

NCR may be an atheist, and could possibly be skeptical in some areas of his life, but he obviously has a blind spot when it comes to his Jesus Juice. The way he’s handling himself here though, I think he’s just in the early stages of senility.

Agreed, no true anything, because anyone will do or beleive anything.

If I’d been able to up a video of me saying the comment, the making fun of people who use that as an argument would have been more clearly rolled into the comment

I had hoped that the (TM) trademark was enough of a wink to trigger that realization

ah well, some things work verbally and aren’t translatable when written

Very true. Sarcasm does not translate well over teh intertoobz!

Which is why I tell everyone that everything I say should be taken as sarcasm.

Except for that.

And that.

And that.

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AS GEORGE W. NEVER ANSWERED A QUESTION ASK IS JOHN b BLOG, I WILL ASK IT AGAIN.

I WAS A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE AS WELL AS A DEEP SEA DIVER AND A PARATROOPER. A MANUFACTURING SUPERVISOR FOR MAGNAVOX & NCR AND AN INDUSTRIAL ENGINEER FOR XEROX,
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ASIDE FROM MAKING STUPID COMMENTS ON THE INTERNET?

none of which qualifies you as a nutritionist, never mind medical research trained

so welcome to being just another person with an opinion on the internet.

POOR JEREMY

AFTER READING SOME OF HIS BLOG, I’D THOUGHT HE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE AN INTELLIGENT, RATIONAL AND AN LOGICAL OPEN MINDED THINKER. SADLY. HIS POST PROVES THE EXACT OPPOSITE!

“I keep thinking that this Neil guy has got to be a Poe, but then I think of how my wife’s very intelligent grandfather started to act as dementia started decimating his mind, and this seems very familiar.”

SHOVE A CACTUS UP YOUR ASS AND ROTATE ON IT YOU IGNORANT NERD! NOTHING I HAVE EVER SAID IS EVEN WITHIN A COSMOS OF BEING CLOSE TO DEMENTIA.

AND IF YOU THINK IT WAS, YOU ONLY PROVE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF WHAT YOU SPEAK!

At the very least, I’d say Neil is definitely the Dennis Markuze of bullshit fruit juice cure-alls. I’m just waiting for him to threaten to cut all our heads off.

HEY IGNORAMUS, IF YOU SPENT YOUR TIME DOING SUFFICIENT IN DEPTH AND UN BIASED RESEARCH INSTEAD OF JOINING THE OTHER LITTLE MINDLESS FOOLS AND ATTACKING ME, YOU WOULD FIND EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID ABOUT NONI JUICE IS TRUE.

OF COURSE, YOU’VE PROVEN YOU ARE TOO MENTALLY CHALLENGED TO DO ANYTHING AS INTELLIGENT AS THAT.

SO RETARDS SUFFER NEEDLESSLY, SUFFER!

AND WHILE I COULD CARE LESS OF
TOTALLY IGNORANT ASSHOLES SUCH AS YOURSELVES WHERE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL SUFFER DUE TO YOUR IGNORANCE OF THE POWER OF NONI JUICE, I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE WHO YOUR IGNORANCE
MAY DISSUADE FROM USING IT.

Hey sinned,

I took the heat on this one for you, buddy. Maybe you can take the next one.

Hugs and Kisses to sweet, tight cheeks, Neil C. Reinhardt.

His Rein might be hard, but his insides are soft and sweet.

Honks,

Jeremy

Much appreciated Jeremy; I’ll take the next one. You should meet my grandfathers – dealing with NCR is a cakewalk in comparison to dealing with them. Baiting this guy is so painfully easy, but I’ve been looking for something to do since I canceled my World Of Warcraft account!

AFTER READING SOME OF HIS BLOG, I’D THOUGHT HE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE AN INTELLIGENT, RATIONAL AND AN LOGICAL OPEN MINDED THINKER. SADLY. HIS POST PROVES THE EXACT OPPOSITE!

Since apparently you’re talking about my blog, and I feel closer to you than ever now, NCR, allow me to mock you incessantly. You were thinking that you’d get in-depth, intelligent discussion from a guy that has a blog with beer as a background image? Let’s just say this: I apparently know as much (or more) about beer as you do about your precious Noni juice, and I’ve certainly got more than 15 years experience drinking beer. However, I’m not nearly self-deluded enough to think that beer could act as a ridiculous cure all for all these things you claim.

SHOVE A CACTUS UP YOUR ASS AND ROTATE ON IT YOU IGNORANT NERD!

“Ignorant nerd”? Coming from an abusive old former jock like you, forty years past your prime, that’s easily the highest compliment I could hope for. Much appreciated!

NOTHING I HAVE EVER SAID IS EVEN WITHIN A COSMOS OF BEING CLOSE TO DEMENTIA.

I’m not saying your claims are dementia, I’m saying your obsession with noni juice and extreme combatitiveness remind me of what I’ve witnessed as people I know began to succomb to dementia. I’m just borrowing your logic that since you have 15 years of experience watching people be healed by your Jesus Juice, it must be true. I have about 20 years of experience (not contiguous) witnessing family members descend into dementia, so I’d recommend you visit your local doctor, especially since noni juice apparently doesn’t prevent the small strokes or the buildup of proteins in the brain.

IF YOU SPENT YOUR TIME DOING SUFFICIENT IN DEPTH AND UN BIASED RESEARCH INSTEAD OF JOINING THE OTHER LITTLE MINDLESS FOOLS AND ATTACKING ME, YOU WOULD FIND EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID ABOUT NONI JUICE IS TRUE.

I’ve been around long enough to have heard claims like “150% boost to the immune system”, “cures cancer”, “prevents colds”, “helps you easily quit smoking” ad nauseum. Acupuncture, homeopathy, Cold FX, Airborne, and chiropracy are examples of products or alternative therapies that make those exact kind of claims. None of them has been able to support those claims, so what makes you think noni juice is capable of it? Have you even thought this through? Do you know how ridiculous it is to claim your product boosts the immune system? If you had a skeptical bone in your body you’d realize that snake oil salesmen have been making claims like that since we came down from the trees.

In ten minutes I found a dozen sites listing regulatory action and offering reasonable scientific critiques against companies making claims about the magical properties of noni. I even looked a little bit at the active components of the noni plant, of which the best you can say about it is that it contains vitamin C and might provide some antioxidants. I’m sorry, but I’d much rather drink a glass of red wine than drink a plant juice that tastes like vomit. Apparently, (but not surprisingly) noni contains no significant beneficial substances that cannot be found in other plants. I’m not going to steal George’s thunder here, so I’ll avoid going into deeper details, and I’ll let him do the legwork. He’s better at it, anyways.

Anyways, I thank you for providing me the impetus that I used to confirm that, instead of seeking some some magical elixir that will cure all our ills, it’s best to just eat a well-rounded diet.

Are we done here? Because I’d really rather get back to making fun of you.

Yes Jeremy,

You are correct, I made an error and replied to the wrong person. I have never said, nor implied in any way, I do not make errors.

Thus I apologize to you for doing so.

And while I accept full responsibility for making the error IF YOUR PICTURE was NOT where it was, the odds are very high, I would not have made such am error.

And of course, YOU, instead of sending me an email and saying something as totally STUPID as:

“No atheist talks like you do.”

would have just immediately informed me of my error (As I would have done has our roles been reversed.) I’d have admitted my error and apolgized for it much

Neil, you are too dumb to understand how to sell something, so anyone reading this has to wonder about the merits and claims of anything you’re pitching.

Clearly, your boasts of a miracle cure all in the not so finest of the snake oil sales tradition fall flat against your exceptionally poor salesmanship. There is no product that will sell itself and you are no Mr. Infomercial.

Noni is just one more “miracle” cure all that cures nothing other than the swelling of the wallet – it is no more a cure than blueberries or any other fruit.

POOR “Random Ntrygg”

WHOSE COMMENTS PROVE “HE-SHE-IT” IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THE ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL AND VERY UNINFORMED RETARDS WHO DISAGREE.

“none of which qualifies you as a nutritionist, never mind medical research trained”

DUH! JUST WHO SAID IT DID?

LOOK “OH ILLOGICAL ONE”

MAYBE YOU NEED A MEDICAL DEGREE IN SO YOU WILL KNOW PUTTING NONI JUICE ON A HOT GREASE BURN INSTANTANEOUSLY TOOK IT’S PAIN AWAY, SPED IT’S HEALING AND LEFT NO SCAR.

I DO NOT NEED ONE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

MAYBE YOU ARE SO CLUELESS YOU NEED TO BE A NUTRITIONIST TO KNOW IF EATING AND/OR DRINKING SOMETHING BENEFITS YOU OR NOT.

ONLY I DO NOT!

I DO NOT HAVE TO BE ONE TO KNOW ALL THE MANY GREAT THINGS NONI JUICE AS DONE FOR ME, AND FOR OTHERS I KNOW.

I DO NOT NEED TO BE A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL AS I HAVE BOTH MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND THE WORDS OF THOSE I KNOW & TRUST!

AND I ALSO KNOW OF MANY HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, WHO NOT ONLY DRINK NONI JUICE EVERY DAY, AND USE IT TOPICALLY WHEN NEEDED, THEY ALSO PRESCRIBE IT TO THEIR OWN FAMILIES AND TO ALL OF THEIR PATENTS.

AND I ALSO KNOW OF VETERINARIES, LIKE DR. GARY TAN, WHO DO THE SAME!

“so welcome to being just another person with an opinion on the internet.”

THIS COMMENT MAKES ME WONDER IF YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A MERE OPINION AND A FACT. BASED ON IT, IT SEEMS NOT.

I HAVE 15 YEARS OF PROOF OF WHAT NONI HAS DONE FOR ME. AND CHILD, NONE OF IT IS MERE OPINION.

SO TRY LEAVING THE THINKING TO THOSE WHO CAN AS YOU HAVE PROVEN YOU CAN NOT!

YES RETARDS,

WHILE MY ATHLETIC “PRIME” MAY BE PAST, AT LEAST I HAD ONE.
HAVE YOU?

AND YES, I AM OLD.

SOMEDAY, IF YOU ARE REALLY VERY LUCKY, YOU WILL BE AS WELL.
WHEN YOU ARE, YOU WILL LOOK AT IDIOTS LIKE YOU WHO THINK THEY KNOW SO MUCH MORE THAN THEY DO AND YOU WILL LAUGH AT THEM AS I LAUGH AT YOUR MASSIVE IGNORANCE.

WHY DON’T YOU TELL THESE WORLD CHAMPION ATHLETES. WHO LOVE NONI JUICE, IT IS BS & THEN LISTEN TO THEM LAUGH AT YOUR STUPID ASSES?

Rocky Tilson – Won a Gold and a Silver Medals at two different world championships

Christina McMahon – 50kg World Kickboxing Champion

Geraldine Finegan – Won gold at the World Heptathlon championships

Dave Hunt – Won the Katcina Msa 100K Mountain Run

While Holly Semanoff only took 4th at the largest figure competition in the U.S..odds are it is morr than any of you nerds have ever done.

HERE RETARDS,

READ WHAT ALL THESE DOCTORS
SAID SOMETIME BEFORE THE YEAR
2,000.

DOCTORS AND NONI JUICE

Dr. Scott Gerson

Is one of the world’s leading authorities on complementary medical treatments and their integration into modern medicine.
His specialty is Ayurvedic medicine.

“As a Ayurvedic physician, I rely on the forces of nature. TAHITIAN NONI Juice represents the gathering point of these forces in the form of a fruit.

My years of experiences with TAHITIAN NONI Juice confirm its effectiveness in supporting the maintenance of physiology in people who use it regularly.

TAHITIAN NONI Juice is emerging in scientific analysis to be the richest source of nutrients of any other variety of noni product on the market. TAHITIAN NONI Juice has proven to be more beneficial than any other noni product in the marketplace.”

(Dr. Gerson has done double blind studies on Noni Juice. I am pretty sure he is the man who found they have been using Noni Juice, under a different name, in India for OVER 5,000 years!!

He also has a audio tape which iss very informative on Noni Juice. While it has a lot of technical stuff, and thus I found it a little boring. I am sure that medical professionals would not.)

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Joel Fuhrman, M.D.

As a family physician who specializes in
nutritional medicine, I have found certain natural products to be helpful for various conditions, especially in combination with aggressive dietary change and optimal nutrition.

I started using Tahitian Noni juice with my patients. Never have I seen a product so effective for so many different conditions.

To my amazement, Noni Juice offered relief in the majority of cases for many different conditions.

Almost every patient reported pain relief from musculoskeletal symptoms. It has worked remarkably well for degenerative joint disease, auto immune illness like rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia and even garden-varity back pain.

My father has chronic lymphocytic leukemia with a steadily worsening anemia and a climb- ing white blood cell count. After just two weeks on Noni Juice, his anemia improved and his white count dropped from 115 to 76.

My father had had suffered very severe ankle injuries during World War II. After only five days of being on Noni, he could dance pain-free after being in pain for years.

Other physicians, including Steven Hall M.D., corroborated my findings with his patients.. Dr. Hall wrote me, “Ten years of chronic back pain gone within three weeks of starting this juice. Twenty-three years of menstrual headaches gone after taking Tahitian Noni.

A forty-year old female who suffered a stroke after spinal disc surgery, resolved her lid lag, vision, and limb pain within three weeks of starting Noni Juice.”

I urge all health professionals to try Tahitian Noni Juice on themselves and their patients. I’m convinced it could make a significant difference in most people’s health.

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Dr. Mona Harrison, MD; Yelm, WA
(She was the Asst. Dean of Medicine at Boston Univ. and Chief Medical officer at D.C. General Hospital. She is now in private practice.)

“I have noticed there a positive response to TAHITIAN NONI juice in the body. This is a wonderful discovery for millions of people throughout the world.

I believe TAHITIAN NONI juice to be the most exciting product of our time.”

(Dr. Mona Harrison can be heard on an audio tape explainig how Noni Juice can have such a extreamly positive effect on so many meldical problems.)

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Dr. Jim Marcoux, Chiropractor, Kinesiologist, and Nutritionist; Livonia, IN

“As a chiropractor, kinesiologist and nutritionist, I have introduced several hundred people to TAHITIAN NONI juice with nothing short of spectacular results!

TAHITIAN NONI juice works wonderfully with the body.”

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Dr. Wayne Cole, DO, Osteopathic Physician, Family Practice; Providence, PA

“TAHITIAN NONI juice just makes me,
as well as many of my patients, feel better. I never miss a day taking it.

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“Dr. Jake Savage, PhD Microbiology; Huntsville, AL.

“I love TAHITIAN NONI juice. It is an absolutely phenomenal product and I take pride in recommending it to everyone.”

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Dr. Bryant A. Bloss, MD, Orthopedic Surgeon; Evansville, IN

“I am an orthopedic surgeon and after my personal success with TAHITIAN NONI juice, I decided to try it with my family and patients. We all agree that TAHITIAN NONI juice has made a real positive difference in our lives.”

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Dr. Gary Tran, Veterinarian; Louisville, KY
“TAHITIAN NONI juice has been very successful with my family, but I most grateful to Morinda for my four-legged patients. TAHITIAN NONI juice has made my job easier. In my thirty-five years of practice I have never seen anything a great as TAHITIAN NONI juice.”

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Dr. Samuel Kolodney, Chiropractor; New Hope, PA

“Once I recognized the wide variety of beneficial effects TAHITIAN NON juice is capable of conferring, I felt compelled to share this product with my patients.

I know that TAHITIAN NONI juice has helped all of my patients who have tried it and it can help anyone who is looking to benefit overall. I have directly or indirectly changed the lives of over 2,000 people by introducing them, or someone they know, to TAHITIAN NONI juice.

My personal results have been nothing short of miraculous. Try it – You’ll love it.”

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Dr. Joyce Boffert, Chiropractor; New York, NY

“Being a natural health practitioner, I have recommended TAHITIAN NONI juice to many of my patients and I have seen remarkable results. I use it and I will continue to inform people that good health and well-being can be maintained naturally.”

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Dr. Loren Marks, Clinical Nutritionist; New York, NY

“I have seen TAHITIAN NONI juice help my patients and family. The product is extremely supportive and beneficia. I encourage everyone to drink it.”

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Dr. Donald Murdock, Chiropractor; Chicago, IL

“This is a great product. If I could only have one product to use and recommend, it would be TAHITIAN NONI juice because of its wide variety of uses.”

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Dr. Betty J. Carter, MD; Lutz, FL

“This is an exceptional product. I have found it has helped many of my patients. I would recommend it to anyone.”

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Dr. Roger Soard, Chiropractor; Winchester Bay, OR

“TAHITIAN NONI juice is a must for anyone concerned about their well-being. I have taken TAHITIAN NONI juice three to four times a day for nearly a year now.

I’ve noticed so many benefits, and I feel great. Being concerned about my health, and given one supplement of any kind to keep, I’d keep TAHITIAN NONI juice, even if it meant moving to Tahiti!”

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Dr. Steven Hall, MD, Family Practitioner; Seattle, WA

“In all of my years of experience, I have never seen one product so beneficial in so many situations.

I recommend TAHITIAN NONI juice to my patients and anyone interested in helping to maintain good health, I love it!”

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Dr. Clifford Blumberg, Dentist; Queens, NY

“When my wife first presented this TAHITIAN NONI juice to me, I thought it was another snake oil.

After six weeks, I realized there is enormous merit to it and began taking TAHITIAN NONI juice myself.

I noticed my wife experienced great benefits so I started recommending and using TAHITIAN NONI juice in my own practice with absolutely marvelous results.”

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Dr. Gordon Hunte, Herbalist and Chiropractor; Calgary, AB,Canada

“TAHITIAN NONI juice has helped me immensely. I’ve seen it help other individuals as well.

I feel TAHITIAN NONI juice is a remarkable product and can help many people.”

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Dr. Donald Mantell, MD, Family Practice; Cranberry, PA

“The TAHITIAN NONI juice products have radically changed my medical practice. I enjoy going to work just to use them with my patients.”

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Dr. Barbara Flot, MD; Los Angeles, CA

“Many of my patients feel they have been able to do things they never would have been able to do thanks to TAHITIAN NONI juice. It really seems to benefit all who take it.”

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Dr. Frederick Pryce, PhD Clinical Biochemistry; Orleans, ON, CAN

“I have seen TAHITIAN NONI juice benefit my patients. I also use this product personally, as well as give it to my loved ones.

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“Dr. Robert Young, Chiropractor; Chicago, IL

“TAHITIAN NONI juice is a very exciting product. I use it faithfully and recommend it to all enthusiastically!”

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Dr. Maria Odegbaro, MD, General Practitioner; Brooklyn, NY

“In my experiences with natural products, TAHITIAN NONI juice tops them all. My patients are experiencing excellent results.”

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Dr. Ken Stejskal, Homeopathic Practitioner; Hutchinson, KS

“I am a complete fan of TAHITIAN NONI juice. The benefits it affords are fantastic and I recommend it to all of my patients.”

(Dr. Stejskal has cured may people cancer by using Noni Juice.)

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Dr. William Pomfret, PhD Occupational Health; Carp, ON, CAN

“TAHITIAN NONI juice is fantastic!

I have found absolutely remarkable results. It has had a phenomenal effect on many of my clients.

One of the best results was on an 82 year-old woman. She has experienced a tremendous improvement thanks to TAHITIAN NONI juice.”

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Dr. Matthews, Dentist; Chicago, IL

“Your health is your wealth, so keep drinking your TAHITIAN NONI juice. I use TAHITIAN NONI juice to keep me at my best throughout the day.”

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Tom Stone, ND, CNHP, MH; Kentwood, MI

“In my work as an iridologist and a kinesiologist, I have many occasions to recommend TAHITIAN NONI juice to my clients. I am pleased with the experiences I have had using TAHITIAN NONI juice with my clients and my family.

We have had so many positive results that have reinforced our confidence in the product.”

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Dr. William E. Doell, MD; San Clemente, CA

“Twenty-five years of nutritional medicine experience never prepared me for the wonders of TAHITIAN NONI juice. This is the most remarkable product I have ever seen.”

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Dr. Jack Souder, Chiropractor; Angola, IN
“We have used a considerable amount of TAHITIAN NONI juice with our friends and patients. Many have had very good results, some have had spectacular results.

The unique thing about TAHITIAN NONI juice is that there is no worthy competitor nor comparable product anywhere.”

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Dr. Don Metz, MD, Family Practice; Plymouth, MN

“I use TAHITIAN NONI juice to help my patients. The benefits I’ve witnessed are phenomenal and I recommend it to everyone.”

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Dr. Nelson P. Rivers, Pharmacist; Evansville, IN

“Thousands of lives are being touched in a positive way, every day by TAHITIAN NONI juice. This is the greatest natural product I have ever come across and perhaps, the biggest health breakthrough in decades.

I believe it will continue to help many, many people now and in the future.”

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Dr. Paula Davey, Doctor of Internal and Environmental Medicine; Ann Arbor, MI

“TAHITIAN NONI juice works better than other products I’ve tried. Some of my patients definitely feel better after using it.”

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Dr. Anne Hirazumi Kim, Phd.

Dr. Anne Hirazumi Kim, who wrote her Ph.D. thesis on anti-tumor qualities of noni, now consults to further its research of the Morinda citrifolia plant, looking for new ways in which noni can be beneficial.

“Tahitian Noni Juice is the finest product available. It has wonderful effects on the immune system without any toxicity and is compounded by the nutritional values of additional natural ingredients.

I’m proud to be working with the company because we both share the same goals and desires of improving the health of many through the precious noni plant.

ALL TAHITIAN NONI Products are manufactured with the utmost care and quality assurance.”

Dr. Anne Hirazumi-Kim

THIS FROM 2002

HERE RETARDS, READ WHAT ONE OF AMERICA’S TOP DOCTORS SAID:

Dr. Neil Solomon’s newest book, Doctor to Doctor: Clear Answers to Your Patients’ Questions About Noni Juice

While “Doctor to Doctor” was written for medical professionals who are unaware of just how much legitimate research and scientific knowledge has been amassed about TAHITIAN NONI Juice, the book is also a great guide to anyone interested in learning the medical facts about noni.

The book covers research which has been done on noni in countries ranging from the United States & France to the Philippines. Along with the general research that has been done on noni, it covers the scientific literature about the specific conditions of hypertension, migraines, arthritis, cancer, tuberculosis, addictions, and cellular growth and repair.

In Doctor to Doctor, Dr. Solomon, along with nearly twenty other respected and esteemed medical professionals, share their medical experiences with noni-a nutritional supplement they have all found extremely useful to patients in their varying practices.

Perhaps the most attractive part about the book is that Dr. Solomon is able to balance the world of conventional medicine with that of “non-traditional” medicine. Dr. Solomon doesn’t believe these two approaches need be enemies.

In fact, he believes both have much to offer.

The following is an excerpt from the introduction of the book:

Dear Colleague,

Like many of you, I had excellent training in traditional medicine, yet I had little formal medical school training in alternative medicine.

In my recent years, I have come to realize there is more to health & well-being than traditional medicine can offer alone.

I believe there is a gap between conventional and alternative medicine.
And this gap needs to close. Both fields of medicine are legitimate and substantial.

While neither field is perfect, both strive for the same goal-to deliver a better life to all who seek it.

Over the last six years, after retiring from the practice of Medicine, I have been investigating the healing properties of a tropical plant, Morinda citrifolia, which is largely unknown to most Americans.

I believe the fruit from this plant can make a valuable contribution to how physicians can achieve and maintain an improved state of health for their patients. This fruit goes by the interesting everyday name of noni.

Even with my openness to alternative medicine, my initial introduction to noni was probably similar to that of many of you. While I was skeptical, it did trigger my interest. So I decided to investigate.

I began studying medical literature to see what science knew about noni-where it came from, where it grew, how it had been used historically, what studies had been completed regarding its healing value, and what did other medical professionals think about it.

I started contacting everyone I knew who knew anything about noni. Among those were doctors and nurses, nutritionists, scientists and a host of other health professionals.

While my hope is my years of studying and learning about this natural food supplement will save you much of the time and effort I’ve exerted, it will leave you with the same respect and awe for this fruit that I now have.

Best,

Neil Solomon, MD, Ph.D.

NCR SEZ: OH MY (NON-EXISTENT) GOD! ONE OF AMERICA’S MOST HIGHLY RESPECTED DOCTORS ALSO HAS WHAT I DO, RESPECT AND AWE FOR NONI!

MY SURPRISE, SURPRISE! NOT!

THE BOTTOM LINE CHILDREN?

ME RIGHT – YOU NOT!
(I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER!)

“You, Neil C. Reinhardt, are a credulous asshole troll” Well, shit, George. Why don’t you tell him what you really think? Why sugar coat it like this?
Seriously, though. I really appreciate your rant. I have an old friend (Yes, I still call him a friend even though I detest his whole trip) who is trying to make money hawking homeopathic “remedies”, which as anybody who has looked at the subject knows are nothing but pure water or, in the case of tablets, pure inert filler. The latest from him is that these remedies even work AT A DISTANCE!!!. (gasp) Nobody can explain why, but this is THE TRUTH. Right now another acquaintance is pushing a homeopathic treatment for radiation poisoning. And they wonder why big placebo doesn’t get support from “the lame stream media” and “big pharma”.
I just wonder how they avoid going to jail for fraud and stupidity.

WHILE MOST OF THIS IS A REPLY TO A “SINNED” POST IN JOHN B. BLOG. THE FIRST PART IF IT IS IN RESPONSE TO HIS IDIOT COMMENTS IN THIS THREAD.

LOOK RETARD, I CAN FIND ALL KINDS OF WEBSITE’S WHICH PROVE THERE WAS NO HOLOCAUST, THE US DID NOT LAND ANY MEN ( MUCH LESS 12 OF THEM ) ON THE MOON, THE EARTH IS FLAT AND IT WAS NOT AN AIR LINER FULL OF PASSENGERS WHICH HIT THE PENTAGON.

SO I GIVE A SHIT LESS WHAT YOU FOUND AS MY EXPERIENCE PROVES IT IS ALL BULL SHIT. (KIND OF LIKE ALL OF YOU.)

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THIS IS IN REPLY TO THE OTHER BLOG POST

FYI CHILD

1. WORDS ARE WORDS AND ACTIONS ARE ACTIONS. YOUR ACTIONS IN NOT POSTING YOUR NAME WHILE I DO POST MINE, PROVES MY POINT.

ANYONE WHO ATTACKS ANOTHER ON THE NET AND DOES NOT USE THEIR FULL REAL NAME IS A COWARD! THEY HAVE NO HONOR AND NO INTEGRITY!

2. IT WAS NOT SPAM. IT IS FACTUAL INFORMATION I SHARED IN THE HOPES OF HELPING OTHERS

I DID SO THINKING SOME MAY ACTUALLY BE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO LOOK IN TO IT WITH AN OPEN MIND. AND BY SO DOING, LEARN EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT NONI JUICE IS TRUE.

THUS VERY POSSIBLY CAUSING THEMSELVES, THEIR LOVED ONES, FRIENDS, THEIR PETS & EVEN THEIR LIVE STOCK TO HAVE HEALTHIER LONGER LIVES WHILE SUFFERING LESS.

IT WAS NOT SPAM AS I, AT NO TIME SUGGESTED IN ANY WAY THEY GET NONI JUICE FROM ME. AND I ALSO INFORMED THEM THERE ARE MANY BRANDS OF NONI JUICE.

AS A RESULT OF MY ATTEMPTING TO
HELP OTHERS, IGNORANT RETARDS ATTACKED ME.

AND THUS, I HAVE A VERY VALID REASONS TO BE ANTAGONISTIC!

4. NOT ONE THING I HAVE SAID IS A “DELUSION” AND NOT YOU, OR AN ARMY OF YOUR FELLOW RETARDS CAN PROVE ONE THING I HAVE EVER SAID IS ONE!

THE ONLY THINGS A PSYCHOLOGIST (Dr. Charles Hearn of Santa Monica, Ca,) TOLD ME WAS THAT I WAS A MUCH NICER PERSON THAN I LET ON, I HAD A GIFTED LEVEL I.Q. AND A NEARLY DOUBLE A.Q. (A.Q. is the tested ability of how effectively a person uses the IQ they have,)

LAST, AS JUST A FEW HOURS AGO I DID IT TO A ASSHOLE WHO IS MUCH TALLER & OVER 30 YEARS YOUNGER, IT REMINDED ME TO INFORM YOU OF THE FOLLOWING.

I SAY THE SAME THINGS IN PERSON I SAY ON THE NET. IF SOMEONE IS AN ASSHOLE (OR WHAT EVER) I TELL THEM SO.

TO THIS DARWIN ASSHOLE

ANYONE WHO ATTACKS ANOTHER ON THE INTERNET AND DOES NOT USE THEIR REAL FULL NAME WHEN THEY ARE DOING SO IS A PUNK COWARD WHO HAS NEITHER HONOR OR INTEGRITY!

AND THIS, SHIT BIRD IS YOU!

AND PEA BRAIN, THOSE WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO “SELL” SOMETHING
DO NOT TELL OTHERS THERE ARE MANY BRANDS OF IT AND THEY ALSO ASK THEM TO BUY IT FROM THEM
WHICH I HAVE NOT DONE.

AND YOUR IDIOT COMMENTS ON NONI JUCIE PROVE YOU HAVE NO CLUE AND YOUR WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

SO TRY GETTING YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!

Oh my – this is sounding verrrrry familiar…

Yes. He sent it to my email address as well. The guy sure knows how to make friends and influence people. And such an admirable dude. Managed to lay all those women and brags about it, as any real man would, true fellow of the right kidney sexual athlete and deep thinker. Regular hero this guy. Do you think maybe it’s time to stop feeding the troll. Logic ain’t going to work on him you know. Neither will ridicule. He just wants attention, like all trolls.

Has anyone considered the possibility that neil types in ALL CAPS, not because he is yelling and belligerent, but rather he is old and decrepit and it is the only way he can see the words on the screen?

Ooh, good point, John. He doesn’t need glasses, but not because of the Miracle Healing Properties of noni juice, it’s because he’s got his 24″ widescreen monitor set to 640×480 resolution, his Internet Explorer 3 font set to 72 point and types everything in CAPS BECUZ ITS EASIER TOO REED!

NCR,

Even people who think that YHWH created the planet five thousand years ago can put together a list of 500 supposed scientists that “doubt evolution.” If you think your list of doctors and pharmacists that none of us has ever heard of is compelling, then you are merely offering even more evidence that you have zero understanding of what skepticism and science actually are.

Try harder. Maybe you should yell really loud at your monitor while you type in all caps. That might finally convince us you’re right. If not, potential customers always respond really well to being called ignorant assholes. We might be one more insult away from actually buying your product and signing up to sell noni alongside you!

Or you could list the active ingredients in noni that coalesce into the magical food product that turned the entire population of micronesia into cancer and sickness free supermen that live until they are 300 years old, at which point they don’t actually die, they just fade into the ether, becoming more powerful than we could ever imagine.

I CALL YOU RETARDS BECAUSE YOUR ACTIONS PROVE YOU ARE!!!

The movie character Forest Gump Very Accarately stated it when he said:

“STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!”

I say:

“RETARDED IS AS RETARDED DOES!”

ALL of you who have attacked me for my TRYING TO HELP OTHERS are MOST CERTAINLY VERY “RETARDED”!

WHILE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ARE SKEPTICS, ONLY THE “RETARDED”
ARE CLOSE MINDED FOOLS LIKE YOU!

WHILE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
SOMEONE SHARING USEFUL AND VALUABLE INFORMATION AND WHEN SOMEONE’S SOLE INTENT IS TO SELL SOMETHING, RETARDS LIKE YOU, DO NOT!

“RETARDS ARE WHAT RETARDS DO!”
TNI is a Scam?

INC MAGAZINE DOES NOT THINK SO!

From 11/07/01

MORINDA (NOW TNI) IS #26!

6,137% Growth Lands Morinda (TNI) on the INC 500 List

Every Two Years, Inc Magazine, one of the nation’s most respected business publications, publishes a list of the 500 fastest-growing private companies in America.

Of all of the companies on the list founded in 1996, Morinda (TNI) had the #1-ranked first year volume.

Only 2 of the companies had a higher profitability rating.

Morinda (TNI) was the #1-ranked network marketing company on the entire list. In fact, TNI is the ONLY network marketing company on the list.

Morinda (TNI) was the #1-ranked health products company on the entire list.

Morinda (TNI) was the #1 ranked consumer healthy food products company on the entire list.

Morinda (TNI) was the #1 ranked healthy food, food, and health supplement brand on the list.

The number-one ranked company had total sales in 1996 of $200,000.00.

Morinda (TNI) had total sales in 1996 of $6,285,000.00.

The number-one ranked company had total sales in 2000 of $63,490,000.00.

Morinda (TNI) had total sales in 2000 of $392,000,000.00.

Morinda’s (TNI) 2000 sales were more than double any of the top 100 companies on the list.

Some of the best known companies in the world today were listed on the Inc 500 list in their early history. Here are a sampling of some well-known companies which appeared on the list and their ranking at that time.

CompUSA debuted in 1990 at #47

Microsoft debuted in 1984 at #80

Oracle debuted in 1982 at #82

Dominos Pizza debuted in 1983 at #453

Gap Stores debuted in 1996 at #469

In 2001, Morinda (TNI) debuted at #26!

Rankings are based on growth rates over the 5-year period covering 1996-2000.

In 1996, Morinda (TNI) sales were $6.5 Million, and in 1997 Morinda’s (TNI) first full year of operation, sales surpassed $62 Million. Year 2000 sales totalled 360 million.

All told, from 1996 through 2000. Morinda (TNI) totalled more than $929 million in sales.

TNI sales in excess of FOUR BILLION IN ELEVEN YEARS!

SO ANYONE WHO THINKS (TNI) IS A SCAM IS A TOTAL RETARD!

RETARDS ARE AS RETARDS DO!

Extremist Christians want to have homosexuals stoned to death because they are trying to help them not be gay. Islamist terrorists are just trying to save America from Allah’s wrath. The Canadian government allows asbestos producing companies to sell asbestos to third world countries because they’re concerned about saving Canadian corporate profits.

Ever heard the saying, “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”? I couldn’t care less that you might be misguidedly attempting to help people, because it doesn’t make you correct.

As far as the success of your glorious company, have you ever heard of Bernie Madoff? How about Enron? Amway? Just because a company is successful doesn’t mean it isn’t a scam.

If you show me that it works, and how it works, and when I’ve recovered from the shock, I will take a compass and carve the words “Fancy that” on the side of my cock.

I couldn’t care less what faceless names created by the marketing department say about noni, I want to know what the active ingredient in noni is, and the explanation for how it manages to repair damaged skin tissue, repair damaged kidneys, and detect and destroy cancer cells. I’d even love for you to explain PRECISELY what you mean when you say it boosts the immune system by 150%.

PS: Did you scream the words at the screen like I asked you to? I didn’t hear anything, so I’m not convinced yet.

FIRST, I TYPE IN CAPS TO PISS OFF RETARDS AND IT SURE SEEMS TO WORK!

SECOND, YOU RETARDS ARE PROVING YOU ARE JUST LIKE FUNDAMENTALIST RELIGIOUS PEOPLE!

NO MATTER HOW MUCH PROOF IS PROVIDED YOU ARE WRONG, YOU HANG ON TO YOUR STUPID ASS BELIEFS LIKE A DROWNING RAT GRASPING A FLOATING TWIG!

THIRD, INTELLIGENT PEOPLE TRY THINGS OUT FOR THEMSELVES TO SEE IF THEY WORK OR NOT.

THIS SURE LEAVES ALL OF YOU RETARDS OUT!

FORTH, ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE AS GREAT AS EYE SITE AS I DO WHEN YOU ARE MY AGE, (IF YOU ARE STILL ALIVE) WILL BE VERY FORTUNATE.

FIFTH, I HAVE NO DESIRE IN MAKING FRIENDS WITH ASSHOLES WHO ARE AS IRRATIONAL, ILLOGICAL AND AS TOTALLY RETARDED AS YOU FOOLS KEEP PROVING YOU ARE.

SIXTH, WHY DON’T YOU RETARDS TELL ALL THESE PEOPLE NONI DID NOT HELP THEIR PETS SO THEY CAN LAUGH AT YOUR IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY AS I DO?
(Ed.- This Comment has been edited. A ridiculously long list of testimonials by people who use Noni on animals has been removed by George W. If you wish to see the testimonials, they can be found in Woo Juice: Neil’s Tired List of Testimonials (with Commentary))

HEY SINNED!

YOU SHOULD NOT JUDGE OTHERS BY YOUR OWN POOR STANDARDS, LACK OF HONESTY AND YOUR VERY LOW MORALS. ALL YOUR VERY IGNORANT COMMENTS PROVE IS OTHERS HAVE MUCH HIGHER AND BETTER MORALS THAN YOU DO.

YOU NOT ONLY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF EVERY NAME I LISTED IS NOT A REAL PERSON WHO ACTUALLY SAID WHAT THEY DID SAY, YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE ANY VALID REASON FOR ASSUMING IT WAS DONE BY SOME MARKETING DEPARTMENT.

THE ODDS ARE VERY HIGH YOU COULD HAVE FOUND MANY, IF NOT ALL OF THOSE DOCTORS BY DOING AN INTERNET SEARCH FOR THEM. ONLY AS YOU ARE SUCH A TOTALLY STUPID ASSHOLE, YOU DID NOT EVEN LOOK!

I PITY YOU AND YOUR POOR LOW FUNCTIONING LITTLE MIND AS WILL NOT LET YOU EVEN GET A CLUE HOW WRONG YOU ARE.

THIS QUOTE MOST CERTAINLY DESCRIBES YOU AND THE REST OF THE RETARDS WHO KEEP INSISTING
NONI IS NOT WHAT I SAY IT IS.

“Most men… Can seldom accept even the simplest and most oblivious truth if it obligates them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught others and which they have woven thread by thread into the fabric of their lives.”

Tolstoy

again, with any sales, honey works better than vinegar.

HEY CLUELESS SINNED

BANANAS DO ALL KINDS OF GREAT THINGS FOR OUR BODIES. DO YOU REALLY THINK THOSE WHO EAT A LOT OF THEM (AS I DO )NEED A LIST OF BANANA “INGREDIENTS”?

DE WE NEED A LIST OF THE INGREDIENTS OF ORANGE JUICE TO KNOW IT IS GOOD FOR US?

YOU SHOULD REALLY GO TAKE SOME CLASSES IN THE USE OF LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE.

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SECOND, MORE TOP ATHLETES WHO DRINK AND LOVE NONI JUICE
(Ed.-Comment has been shortened for space- This unhelpful and useless list can be viewed in a separate post under Neil’s Tired List Of Testimonials With Commentary.)

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SO GEORGE W, HAVE YOU RUINED MY LIFE YET?

MAKE SURE YOU LET ME KNOW!

OR I DOUBT I’LL EVEN REALIZE HOW MUCH LITTLE NERDY YOU HAS JUST “RUINED MY LIFE”

HEY DARWIN.

“clearly pretending to be an atheist / skeptic (TM) as if that means his woo claim will get by the smell test

PRETENDING?

You poor clueless little retard talking about things you know nothing about.

First, while I AM a “Skeptic” who needs PROOF before accepting some thing as being true, I’m NOT, as ALL of you seem to be, CLOSE MINDED FOOLS.

HONEST REAL TRUE SKEPTICS CHILD, ARE WILLING TO LOOK IN TO THE EVIDENCE ABOUT THINGS AND TO EVEN GIVE WHAT EVER IT IS A FAIR TRY BEFORE PASSING JUDGEMENT ON IT.

Like when in Sept of 1997, a friend told me about Noni Juice and being an OPEN
minded person I decided to try it and see what happened. Aside from the aches and pains of old age going away, I accidently burnt two of my fingers on the edge of a frying pan.

Remembering Charles said it was good for treating burns, I decided to use it and find out for myself if was or not. While I had certainly not intentionally burnt both of my fingers, So I said:

“Self, what a perfect way to test Noni Juice. Here you have nearly identical burns and so put the Noni Juice on one of them and not on the other one and you will then know from you own experience.”

So, I did. And the one I put the Noni on immediately stopped hurting. When I looked at the burns the next day, I could not see where the one I had “nonied” was while I could easily see the other one. 15 years later, I still have a scar from the burn i did not put the noni on.

And EVERY thing else I have said about Noni doing, I have EXPERIENCED it doing. 15 years ago I occasionally needed reading glasses and I got the flu at least once a year. Now I NEVER need reading glasses for normaL reading and I have NOT
had the flu in 15 years

AND THESE FUCKING STUPID PUNK RETARDS ARE GOING TO TELL I AM WRONG, WELL, THEY CAN SHOVE A CACTUS UP THEIR IGNORANT ASSES AND ROTATE ON IT AS THEY HAVE NO DAMN CLUE AS TO THE TRUTH!

JUST STUPID PUNK ASS MF’S.

ON THE OTHER HAND, POSTING IN THIS THREAD, YOU HAVE EXAMPLE AFTER EXAMPLE OF RETARDS WITH NON-EXISTENT CRITICAL & LOGICAL THINKING SKILLS JUST BEING CLOSE MINDED FOOLS!

SO YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG!

NEXT, I’M A “PRETEND” ATHEIST?

YOU ARE ONE SUPER CLUELESS AND IGNORANT RETARD

The truth is the odds ALL of you supposed Atheists who blog here, COMBINED, ever having even done 1/2 as much as I have to further the cause of Atheism and for the Separation of Church and State are about ZERO.

I have been a Agnostic Atheist for some 67 of my 76 years and an Atheist Activist for over 50 years!

THE ODDS ARE VERY HIGH I HAVE BEEN AN ATHEIST ACTIVIST LONGER THAN ANY WHO POST HERE HAVE BEEN ALIVE!

I have attended Atheist Conventions, been a dues paying member of various Atheist organizations and I am a member of four of them now.

I knew Madlyn Murray O”Hair, her sons & her granddaughter, I know Dan Barker & the Gaylors. I know many of the officers and/or former officers of many Atheist organizations. And I know others who written books on Atheism.

DO YOU KNOW SUCH PEOPLE?

I DOUBT IT

I am in email contact with John W Lofuts, and Cliff Walker, as well as Eugene Volokh. I’m friends with both Eugene and Cliff. In fact, Eugene & I worked together.

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO THESE FAMOUS ATHEISTS ARE?

IF YOU DO NOT, THOU SHOULD EDIFY THYSELF.

I’ve picketed the Pope and gotten prayers stopped in a City Counsel meetings. Got a federal judge to stop LA county judges from sentencing Atheists convicted of alcohol connected crimes to AA meetings.
I’ve written many letters to the editor on the subject of religion which were sent to Magazines and Newspapers. More than a few of them were published.

I constantly bring up religion to many others both in person and on the net. I never let some B.S religious whatever go by with making either a negative and/or an educational comment about it. I have caused more than a few people to reject their religion and become Atheists.

This last weekend, two other Atheists from the LA Atheist United and myself Counter-Demonstrated some of the Programmed Religious Robots from Hope Chapel at the annual Hermosa Beach Fair.

Another Atheist there displaying his great paintings, video taped an interview with me holding a large There are NO GOD’s Sign. While he said he was going post it on You Tube, we will see if he does of not.

I am trying to get AU to have a Booth at the upcoming Manhattan Beach Home Town Fair held the first weekend in Oct.

And I was doing all of these things LONG before it came anywhere as close to being as popular to do such things as it is now.

The odds are MOST of you being a dues paying members of even one of the FOUR Atheist organizations I have been a dues paying member of for many years are also very low!

I’ve been a member of American Atheists
since the middle 1970s

http://www.Atheists.org/

I am a CHARTER MEMBER of Atheists United

http://www.AtheistsUnited.org/

I’ve been a member of The Freedom From Religion since shortly after it was started.

http://www.FFRF.org/

I believe I joined the Military Association
of Atheists and Freethinkers not too long after they stated.

http://MAAF.info/

So, AS USUAL, YOU, just like all those (other than myself) who read and reply here, ARE AGAIN, PROVEN WRONG!

Neil, these are very impressive credentials. I’m sure your amazing powers of persuasion have done a lot for the atheist cause and image. One would almost think you were a plant, sent into our ranks to make us look like the impolite, intolerant loud mouths the religious people would like to perceive us as, the atheist equivalent of Fred Phelps.
I’m very impressed. Also saddened. Until now I had a very high opinion of all my fellow atheists, and saw the lot of them as intelligent, reasonable, thoughtful, polite, and effective ambassadors for rationality. You have gone a long way to destroy this comfortable but naive impression. What mature adult brags about the number of women he has bedded? What mature adult intentionally types in all caps just to annoy those he doesn’t respect? Most of all, what mature adult tries to capitalize on the suffering of cancer victims by pushing a very questionable product with outlandish, badly documented, unverified claims?
Neil, I don’t think we are going to be friends.

Neil voluntarily sent me his home address if anyone wants it.

No thanks. I’d rather stick my dick in a hornets nest than have anything to do with that toxic horror of a human being.

Neil is a friend of mine and I truly enjoy his company when he is not angry or hostile. You cannot know him for very long without his mention of Noni Juice. It is, in my opinion, fairly expensive. Yet he gave me a bottle of it at no charge. As far as it being helpful I am skeptical and I told him so; but I am also hopeful.

I am 71 yr old woman. An auto accident 5 years ago gave me a problem with my intestines; I am a heavy smoker (over 50 years of it), and I often feel fatigued. (I am nearing the end of my life and there are still things I want to do, to know, and to experience. You can’t get those things if you don’t get up and out of the chair.) Noni Juice promises to help in these areas PLUS they claim it is helpful to animals. Well, I just happen to have an 11-yr-old, 3-legged Shepherd with very bad spinal arthritis and her remaining back leg has hip dysphasia (hip bone doesn’t fit the socket). She takes pain killers and several different vitamins/minerals for joint relief. We are currently looking for a wheel chair for her.

Five days ago I began a regimen of 3/4 ounces of Noni in the morning and another in the evening for both me and my shepherd. The taste, btw, isn’t any worse than other meds I take–tastes similar to a very overripe plum–all the sugar is gone. Since it has only been 5 days I cannot report any changes but I intend to keep an open mind. I’ve promised Neil if there are any notable changes in either me or my Shepherd, I will be Noni’s Number One enthusiast. I will also keep you informed.

And, please, don’t let Neil’s anger get to you. In his anger I think he says things that he really doesn’t mean–at least not the way they come out. He is a nice man (with an anger problem that he is well aware of) and if you can get thru the exterior you will find he has a very kind heart.

I question the company you keep.

How do you justify when strangers call strangers “retarded,” “lazy,” or say, “I’m going to kicke [sic] your asses.”

I don’t hang out with anyone who does that to me.

Nor would I trust them.

Jeremy —

I question the entire comment in general. I mean, did Neil tell this poor woman, “please go on this retard’s blog and tell them I’m not a lying old crank. They think the Vomit-fruit smoothie juice is a scam. If you do I’ll give you a bottle for free.”

Or is it more likely that this is Neil’s way of legitimizing himself, since the list of “top 20 athletes no one’s ever heard of who love this crap” got him nowhere. C’mon, this old lady is all banged up, aaannd so is her old dog?

I also still find it funny that I wrote a whole post about his irrelevant complaints about religion, exposing his logical fallacies, and the 2 statistics he invented (lied about), and he has yet to find his way over there.

John,

Me? Giving the benefit of the doubt? Noooooooooooooooo!

Upon first read, I questioned the legitimacy of this woman as well, and decided not to pursue it.

I hope that George checks the IP address to see if they are the same.

Otherwise, Noni Neil has a long road to pave if he thinks any of his efforts are noteworthy.

I’ll have to read your post.

JW

Hi Christine,

It’s kind of weird to receive a friend of NCR’s at this point in the “discussion” (and I use the term lightly). Assuming you’re not Neil’s sockpuppet, welcome to the battleground.

I have no doubts that NCR might be a pleasant guy with his family and friends. Any person that would treat every single individual around them the way he’s been treating us here wouldn’t have many people left around in a few short years. Everyone here can attest to the fact that I’m a prick online, but I’m extremely pleasant in real life. Sort of.

I can’t speak for everyone here, but so far the two main complaints we have with NCR is:
1) His sales technique of screaming at people and calling them retards for not agreeing that noni juice is the equivalent of manna from heaven leaves a lot to be desired.
2) He seems to be completely unable to grasp or address our arguments against his claims of noni’s Amazing Healing Qualities.

His claim seems to boil down to “anecdotal evidence and the success of the company that sells noni juice prove that it can cure cancer”. These sort of claims have forever been the domain of snake oil salesmen and Ponzi scammers. NCR has to realize that he’ll need to come up with a lot more than that to convince us of the efficacy of his product.

As an apparently proud atheist, NCR would never accept the kind of evidence he’s presented to us from a psychic or religious proselytizer, but he accuses us of being closed minded, lazy idiots for not immediately accepting his claims, or for coming to differing conclusions after doing a bit of research.

Besides, he’s just acting like an asshole. If the president of the Guinness brewery showed up here, acting the way NCR is, I’d be quite willing to never drink that nectar of the gods ever again. NCR’s attitude is certainly doing nothing to convince me to drink vomit juice for my health.

blechh Guiness? I’d rather drink the vomit juice. I’d rather drink vomit.

Coors Lite fan, eh?

lol, actually, my favorite is Molson Canadian, followed by Yuengling. But since bars dont carry Molson, and you cant get Yuengling in my state, I’ll drink Blue Moon when I’m out.

Hmmm, my last comment seems to have been eaten by WordPress gremlins. Let’s try this again.

Since I started homebrewing beer 20 months ago, having two taps at home means I basically stopped buying beer. But if I was going to run out and make a purchase, I’d probably pick up Warsteiner Dunkel, Hobgoblin, Czechvar, or Duvel. If I was picking up an after-hockey beer, I’d likely grab Molson Dry (if I could find it around here) or Kokanee Gold. If I’m out at the local watering establishments I go with Guinness, Kilkenney, Newcastle, or Rickard’s Red.

And before you protest, George, I think hijacking this noni juice thread is entirely appropriate revenge since NCR attempted to hijack your Jack Layton thread. Besides, unlike some other beverages of discussion lately, beer has actually been proven to be good for you (in reasonable quantities)!

oooo dark guiness

I like Sapporo Black, but no one carried that anymore

hey, maybe I can ship you some Molson, it’s all over Vancouver!

Dear Christine Brean:

I’m touched by your support for your friend Neil, and I must thank you for reminding me that he is a human being. We have only seen one side of your friend, and I’m afraid he has not made himself appear very attractive. It helps to be reminded that he is just a delusional old man with mental problems and very poor social skills.
Unlike George, I do not enjoy being “a prick online” or anywhere else. In fact, I try hard to follow the first of Don Miguel Ruiz’s four agreements: “Be impeccable in your word.” My understanding of this is that my words should always come from a place of love and understanding, with my goal of creating a happier, more harmonious world in mind. In this I all to often fail. My words to Neil did not come from a place of love. He attacked me, and I reacted.

One of the things about his attack that really hit home for me was when he called me a coward for being anonymous. I don’t think I am a coward. But I’m also not a fool, and given the history of murders and attempted murders against people who insult Allah, given the number of atheist bloggers who have been advised to go into hiding less they be killed, and the fact that revealing my identity could possibly endanger not just my life and my job, but also innocent people I love, I have chosen to speak in the voice of Darwin Harmless. I regret this necessity. But I think it is the wise and sensible choice. Neil seem to think there is something heroic about handing out his home address to every fanatic in the world. I don’t agree. I think it is simply foolish posturing. Your friend Neil’s attack on me for my anonymity was not only ill considered, it was pointless and hurtful. My anonymity has nothing to do with the validity of what I say. His immediate use of invective and vituperation because I disagreed with him provoked a reaction in kind. So, again, I thank you for reminding me that he is a human being and should be treated kindly, no matter how offensive I find him.

As for your test of noni juice, I do hope that you realize that your personal experience with that magical elixir, whether very positive or disappointing, will actually prove nothing. The conditions you describe can improve for any number of reasons, possibly unrelated to your dosing yourself and your dog with noni. This is what is known as confirmation bias. If the juice does nothing, people shrug and write it off and forget about it. But if there is an improvement, the juice gets all the credit. This is why homeopathy continues to make money for the people selling pure water.

So far as I can tell, the scientific evaluation of noni indicates that it is no more valuable than orange juice. Now think about that. A sailor suffering from scurvy, a dreaded killer of the past that caused teeth to fall out, gums to bleed, lassitude, and eventually death, would be instantly “cured” by drinking orange juice. This did not make orange juice a miracle cure for cancer. The same could happen with noni juice, since it does contain vitamin C. A severely malnourished person drinking noni would undoubtedly experience a “miraculous” improvement, and might then go on to sell the juice to the world through an MLM company. It wouldn’t mean that the juice was any good, or any better than good nutrition and exercise. As George has pointed out, Neil is a very active senior. Most if not all of the health benefits he thinks he gets from noni could very well simply result from his life style. We see him as delusional. I hope you do not buy into his delusions.

I also hope you and your dog feel better, but if this happens please don’t be too quick to credit noni. The only way to verify the claims made by those who try to sell noni is with double blind controlled tests done by unbiased researchers. As I understand the situation, so far the juice has not shown enough promise to attract such tests. This is not a conspiracy by the “lame stream media” or anybody else. Anecdotal evidence means nothing, because we never hear from the people who paid their money, drank the juice, and found no improvement.

As I said, I’m touched by your support for your friend. But please do not buy into his delusions. Neil is doing serious harm to his social relationships. He is also spreading nastiness and making his, and my, world a little more ugly. He needs professional help. You should push him in that direction.
Good luck.

Okay. You guys have highjacked your own thread. Maybe it’s appropriate, but for a non-beer drinker it’s also boring. I’m outa here. :-)

Darwin,
No worries. I’m not much for alcohol of any sort, so you won’t see me jumping in either.
This poor thread has devolved so much I doubt that anything will get accomplished anymore.

THE FACTS PROVE I AM RIGHT AND ALL OF YOU ARE STUPID IDIOTS!

THE WORLD WOULD BE MUCH BETTER OFF HAD ALL OF YOU BEEN ABORTED!

I’LL HAVE A DRINK & TOAST YOU

“MAY THE BLOODY PILES TORMENT YOU AND CORNS GROW ON YOUR TOES

MAY CRABS AS BIG AS COCKROACHES CRAWL AROUND YOUR LOWER NOSE

WHEN YOUR LIFE’S FORSAKEN AND YOUR BUT A TOTAL WRECK
MAY YOU FALL THROUGH YOUR CRUMBLING ASSHOLES AND BREAK YOU FUCKING NECKS!”

YOU PUNK ASSHOLES NERDS ARE SO TOTALLY MENTALLY CHALLENGED YOU DO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING SKEPTICAL AND BEING CLOSE MINDED IDIOTS

YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED, LOW LIFE PUSS EATING SCUM SUCKING, NO HONOR, NO INTEGRITY DREGS OF THE WORLD, ASSHOLE COWARDS AND TOTAL IDIOTS!

I LIVE AT (Address redacted by site administrator)

COME SEE ME IN PERSON

AND SAY THE THINGS ABOUT ME AND NICE LADY WHO THE ONLY I TOLD WAS I HAD MENTIONED WE COUNTER DEMONSTRATED SOME RELIGIOUS ASSHOLES IN THIS THREAD

AND YOU WILL BE PUSHING UP DAISIES!

YOU ARE ALL PUNKS & SCUM!

NOT GEORGE W, AND ALL OF YOU COMBINED, WOULD MAKE A PIMPLE ON THE ASS OF A REAL MAN LIKE ME!

SO GO EAT INFECTED SHIT!

Oh dear, Neil. This isn’t fun anymore. Your ability to create an insult is pathetic, seemingly restricted to name calling and childish invective. You aren’t even original – I first heard your bit of doggerel about fifty-five years ago.

You do realize that you just issued a death threat? You also perfectly explained and justified my decision to be anonymous in these forums. You may think it is heroic to post your real name and address. I think it is immature posturing and foolish. Quite likely there is nobody in your life you care about, but to have a murderous “real man” like you gunning for me could put a lot of people besides myself in danger. Only an idiot would invite every fanatic in the world to come over for a visit. And now I’m pretty sure you’ve extended that invitation to the FBI as well. Good luck with that.

Neil, I’m sure I’m not the first to tell you this. You need to listen up. You are sick, sir. You need professional help and I sincerely hope you get it.

@everybody This is the last Neil will hear from Darwin Harmless. We really must stop feeding the troll.

Darwin,
I appreciate your calm and cool voice of reason in this thread.
The thread has gone off the deep end, and I suppose I’m mostly to blame for that. I wrote the post with anger and invective, and you reap what you sow. Neil would never take any responsibility for his behavior, but I will. I’m not interested in having insult fights and empty threats be my legacy as a blogger.
Neil’s behavior to this point has been childish, immature, and rude. I, for a moment this morning, considered abandoning several days of research and giving up on my series of follow up posts. It is obvious that Neil has no interest in actually discussing the facts about his claims. Yet I am going to continue- and I assure you that the next two posts will be factual, researched, and polite. I’m going to continue because I don’t want to be someone who throws around claims that I cannot support with facts- I don’t want the invective to be my part of the contribution to skeptical thought.
Expect new posts soon- expect them to be much more mature- and expect that their will be limits to the commenting policy on those posts. Their will be no insults- no threats- I’m going to make an effort to give Neil exactly what he claims he wants; someone to be fair to his claims.
I’m finished with the childish games- and I will only respond to comments on subject in this thread.
Thank you Darwin, for convincing me that I can do better.

Thanks, George. You’re a good guy and a thoughtful person. I’m happy to see this change in direction. It’s going to be a lot more productive, and I look forward to reading your next posts on the subject if noni juice. Try to keep an open mind. Who knows, maybe you’ll be convinced, though I seriously doubt it.
Noni to me sounds like another version of blue green algae, another health miracle that some relatives of mine were totally sold on, and selling, a few years ago. I remember them sitting in their living room, puffing away on cigarettes and telling me how the stuff was changing their lives. Needless to say they didn’t get rich peddling blue green algae, nor did they become super healthy. I don’t know how long they remained true believers, but they eventually quietly dropped the subject.
I just received a long letter from Neil. It list his many accomplishments and experiences, and almost screams his need for attention and approval. The bragging and chest thumping are truly pathetic. The more he reveals himself, the more convinced I am that he is a very sick man who needs help. I sure hope he gets it.
By the way, I don’t think Neil is dangerous. He seems to have a need to be the good guy hero/savior (references in his letter to being a life guard, soldier, policeman, stopping crimes in progress), which fits with pushing his health drink miracle, i.e. trying to save everybody and wants credit for doing so or at least for good intentions. Though he promises to do physical harm if attacked he’s not actually threatening a preemptive strike. I wouldn’t like to stake my life on this assessment though. Sick people are not predictable. But as trolls go, he’ll probably make a good pet once he’s house broken and socialized.
Cheers.

I concur with Darwin and Dwayne, and you both are better men than I. At first, this was amusing in that schoolyard “point-and-laugh at the socially awkward new kid that can’t seem to form a coherent argument” way, but it stopped being fun a while ago, and now it’s just becoming painfully obvious that something is really wrong with NCR, and he needs help. Hence the little subject change to beer. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: he’s the Dennis Markuze of noni juice. I don’t think he’s dangerous, and I’d rather see him obtain the assistance he needs.

I’m also feeling a little regret for the way I’ve mocked the guy. His mindset really reminds me of that of my favorite grandfather. We learned to keep the conversation light, expounding mostly up on the subject of girls, fishing, close family, or his lotto luck, because if you started talking politics, religion, or any of the subjects he had a strong opinion on, there was nothing that would save you if you held a view that was in opposition to his. He was a caring man who’d do anything for friends or family, but he was a violent bull when it came to anyone who crossed him, and he was impossible to sway away from his opinions. He was every bit the overbearing prick NCR has been here, yet I would have been furious to see anyone talk to him the way I’ve talked to NCR here.

That said, I’m not merely accepting NCR’s opinion as canon, I don’t care what good he’s done in the world. I refuse to be cowed by his overtly offensive attitude into pretending he might have a point in order to avoid a fight. It is obvious by now that NCR can’t grasp our critiques of his claims, but I still look forward to George’s analysis of the evidence against the magical powers attributed thus far to noni juice. I can’t guarantee I’ll try to be more civil, but I’ll try to try.

HEY YOU CLUELESS COWARD, DON’T YOU GET IF I DON’T GIVE A SHIT WHAT ILLOGICAL IRRATIONAL ASSHOLES WH ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHEN SOMEONE IS ATTEMPING TO BETTER THEIR LIVES THINKS?

NOTHING I FIRST POSTED DESERVED TO BE ATTACKTED AND INSULTTED.

NOTHING I FIRST SAID
WAS VALID REASON FOR A BUNCH OF NONE THINKING CLOSE MINDED SHEEP, TO JOIN IN THE FRAY,

INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE READ DR SOLOMONS BOOK, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE SUFFICENT RESEARCH.

INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WOULD ASK THEMSELVES
HOW A COMPANY CAN BE THE FORTH FASTEST GROWING COMPANY WITH SALES IN EXCESS OF FOUR BILLION IN ONLY 11 YEARS IT NEARLY ALL OF THOSE WHO FIRST BOUGHT & USED
THEIR PRODUCT WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH IT.

INTELLIGENT PEOPLE
WHO HAVE INTEGRITY THEMSELVES WOULD NOT ASSUME THE DOCTORS I LISTED WERE NOT REAL
PEOPLE.

INTELLIGENT MAUTURE PEOPLE DO NOT ACT AS YOU AND THE OTHERS HERE HAVE.

AND CHILD NOT ONE OF YOU HAVE DONE AS MUCH FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE WORLD AS I HAVE.

SO UP YOURS WITH A SHARP POINTED CACTUS!

Neil,
Darwin is right. You are a sick man. You need professional help.
Please, do this for yourself- seek medical attention for your problems.

I would like to formally apologize to you for writing the post. Though I do not take back any of the rational things I have said regarding noni or TNI.
I was reactive to comments that- in your poor mental state- you believed were helpful. After looking you up online and seeing the horrible and nasty things you have said to several other online atheists and skeptics- my initial anger that you would take the opportunity upon someone’s death to spout conspiracies and untruths was amplified. I realize now that though your actions were inappropriate- they certainly were not deserving of name calling. I know that you deeply believe that noni is a miracle, and TNI is a reputable company- neither of these are true. I know how desperately you want to believe what the marketers and recruiters have told you- and I have been witness many times to the “in for a penny- in for a pound” self-deception that we all suffer at some time.
It is a difficult thing to admit when you are wrong. I was wrong to be rude and bait you into escalating. Though I stand by the truth of my statements- every one of them- I also see that truth and grace are of equal value- and I am more than a little guilty of being ungracious toward you. My follow up posts- I hope- will demonstrate my commitment to being graciously skeptical to your claims.

HEY GEORGE

IN YOUR MASSIVE IGNORANCE YOU SAID:

“in your poor mental state- you believed were helpful

FIRST

I WILL LAY ODDS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE IN THE MENTAL HEALTH FIELD WOULD FIND I WAS MORE SANE THAN MOST OTHERS IN GENERAL AND MOST PROBABLY MORE SANE THAN EITHER YOU OR THE COWARD DEMENTED DARWIN.

“After looking you up online and seeing the horrible and nasty things you have said to several other online atheists and skeptics”

IF YOU HAD A FULLY FUNCTIONING BRAIN & AN OUNCE OF FAIRNESS
YOU WOULD KNOW I DID NOT SAY ANY NEGATIVE THINGS UNLESS I HAD A VALID REASON TO DO SO.

JUST LIKE I HAD WITH YOU, I TRY TO HELP OTHERS & YOU MAKE AN ENTIRE THREAD CALLING ME A CREDULOUS TROLL WHEN I’M NEITHER OF THEM!
THEY STARTED THE NEGATIVE CRAP AND I DEFY YOU TO PROVE ANY DIFFERENT!

“my initial anger that you would take the opportunity upon someone’s death to spout conspiracies and untruths was amplified.”

I DID NEITHER! I DID NOT “SPOUT ANY CONSPIRACIES”

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD “IF” MEANS? AND HOW I USED IT?

NOR HAVE I POSTED ONE “UNTRUTH”!

“I realize now that though your actions were inappropriate-”

THEY WERE NOT INAPPROPRIATE AT ALL.

I FIRST EXPRESSED MY CONDOLENCES AND THEN I ATTEMPTED TO HELP OTHERS AVOID THE SAME FATE.

TRY READING MY ENTIRE POST WITH (IF YOU HAVE ONE) AN OPEN MIND.

“they certainly were not deserving of name calling.”

YES, THEY WERE! I DO NOT TAKE TO BEING ATTACKED FOR NO DAMN VALID REASON. IT IS NOT MY FAULT THEY ARE RETARDS.

“I know that you deeply believe that noni is a miracle, and TNI is a reputable company”

WRONG TWICE!

1. I DO NOT “BELIEVE NONI IS A MIRACLE” I KNOW IT IS!

I DEFY YOU TO NAME ONE OTHER THING WHICH QUICKLY TAKES THE PAIN OF BURNS AWAY SPEEDS THEIR HEALING AND AT LEAST REDUCES IF NOT ELIMINATS SCARING,
AND WHICH DRINKING TOTALLY STOPS ANY DESIRE TO SMOKE!

MUCH THE MANY, MANY MANY OTHER THINGS IT DOES SO WELL. HELL, I WOULD DRINK IT EVEN IF THE ONLY THING IT DID WAS GIVE ME THE GREAT DREAMS I NOW HAVE.
AND I KNOW TNI IS A VERY LIGITIMATE COMPANY WITH MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NONI JUICE SOLD.

“neither of these are true.”

2. WHAT TOTALLY STUPID, BULL SHIT
ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL, BRAIN DEAD, INSUBSTANTIAL & UNPROVABLE, RETARDED COMMENT THAT IS

DO YOU WANT TO BET A HUNDRED BUCKS ON IT?

BOTH ARE 100% TRUE AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE THEY ARE NOT ANY MORE THAN YOU CAN PROVE THE SUN IN NOT IN THE SKY.

“I know how desperately you want to believe what the marketers and recruiters have told you.”

IT IS NOT A FUNCTION OF “MERE BELIEF”

IT IS A FUNCTION OF KNOWLEDGE.

DO YOU BELIEVE YOU LIVE WHERE YOU DO OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE Y0U LIVE? SAME THING!

AND CHILD, I’VE MANY TIMES MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN YOU DO ON VERY MANY, IF NOT MOST THINGS.

LAST, IF YOU GET OFF THIS BULL SHIT ABOUT ME HAVING A MENTAL PROBLEM ABOUT DEALING WITH OTHERS, WHICH THE MANY I SEE EVERY DAY AS WELL AS THE MANY HUNDREDS I EMAIL ALMOST DAILY WILL ATTEST I DO NOT HAVE, AND IF YOU ARE NICE TO ME, I WILL BE NICE BACK.

Neil,
I’ll respond to your criticism.
1. No one can say for sure if you are sane or not- except perhaps a professional. Certainly your actions speak loudly that you have serious anger management issues. I wrote a comment apologizing for my ill-advised behavior- and your response is to escalate.
2. There is no such thing as a valid reason for calling a woman a “cunt”. None. There is no such thing as a valid reason for threatening someone with death or physical harm. None. You did both these things. The fact that you believe that you have some justification for misogyny and threats goes back to why people perceive you as ill.
3. Boldly asserting that their is a well established plan to hide the benefits of a health product- that people are purposely hiding the facts in order to financially profit- is a conspiracy theory. It is false. You believe it in spite of facts to the contrary. So, yes, you spouted conspiracies on my blog. You did it in a post that was essentially a eulogy to someone I respect deeply. It was inappropriate.
4. I will summarize your claims about Noni, and about TNI, in my next two posts. You will forgive my deliberation, but I’m trying to be as thorough as possible. Isn’t that exactly what you wanted?

In the meantime, I’ll let you know that your posts with all the links bounced into my spam folder. This is automatically done for comments with too many links- as this is a defining characteristic of spam. I assure you I will refer to each link in my upcoming posts.

1. No one can say for sure if you are sane or not- except perhaps a professional. Certainly your actions speak loudly that you have serious anger management issues. I wrote a comment apologizing for my ill-advised behavior- and your response is to escalate.

I ALSO SAID:

“LAST, IF YOU GET OFF THIS BULL SHIT ABOUT ME HAVING A MENTAL PROBLEM ABOUT DEALING WITH OTHERS, WHICH THE MANY I SEE EVERY DAY AS WELL AS THE MANY HUNDREDS I EMAIL ALMOST DAILY WILL ATTEST I DO NOT HAVE, AND IF YOU ARE NICE TO ME, I WILL BE NICE BACK.”

———————-

2. There is no such thing as a valid reason for calling a woman a “cunt”. None.

PERHAPS NOT YOUR LITTLE MICKEY
MOUSE OPINION, ONLY IF HAVE NOT YET FIGURED IT OUT, I CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR OPINION

380,000 people a year DIE from smoking,
MANY women suffer from cramps and other female problems, nearly every person suffers from headaches, many people get colds and the flu and on and on and on with things I KNOW Noni Juice
helps.

SHE COULD have taken the time to find out the truth about Noni Juice and then written about it in her blog. And this could have resulted in from one, to many others SUFFERING LESS and perhaps EVEN SAVING LIVES.

I sent her a NICE email explaining about there is a difference between being a TRUE Skeptic and a CLOSE MINDED RETARD. I informed her that many times
things which only sounded as if they were
“Too Good To Be True” ACTUALLY were
true.

I mentioned some examples which proved my point. And I said while Noni certainly
SOUNDED as IF it was “Too Good To Be True” sufficent open minded, & in-depth
study of the evidence would prove that Noni Juice IS the single most remarkable
natural healing remedy ever yet found.
Yet INSTEAD of her replying in a NICE manner, she chose not to and things escalated.

I do not call ASSHOLES like her a BITCH as I will NOT INSULT DOGS by including HER in their company.

STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!

A CUNT IS AS A CUNT DOES!

WHILE I CAN NOT REMEMBER THE SPECIFICS AT THIS TIME, SHE DAMN WELL DID SOMETHING BAD ENOUGH TO CAUSE ME TO CALL HER WHAT SHE IS, A STUPID CUNT!

POSSIBLY SAVING LIVES IS NOT IMPORTANT TO HER. (OR YOU FOR THAT MATTER)

SHE DOES NOT WANT TO BE CALLED A CUNT, SHE SHOULD STOP ACTING LIKE ONE!

DUH!

——————

There is no such thing as a valid reason for threatening someone with death or physical harm. None. You did both these things.

BULL SHIT, ALEXANDER HAMILTON
STONEWALL JACKSON AND THE MANY, MANY OTHERS WHO FOUGHT DUELS WOULD DISAGREE

YOU SEE CHILD, THERE ARE THOSE WHO PLACE HIGH VALUE ON THEIR WORD.

WHEN SOMEONE STATES I AM LYING
IT IS GOOD ENOUGH REASON FOR ME TO BE WILLING TO KILL THEM IN A DUEL THEM.

AND FYI CHILD, NOT YOU, OR ANY ONE, CAN GIVE ME INTELLIGENT, RATIONAL, NON-RELIGIOUS AND NON-EMOTIONAL REASON WHY ANY HUMAN LIFE IS OF ANY MORE IMPORTANCE THAN THE LIFE OF ANY OTHER LIVING THING!

The fact that you believe that you have some justification for misogyny and threats goes back to why people perceive you as ill.

THOSE WHO THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO ATTACK AND/OR TO INSULT OTHERS WHEN THOSE OTHERS HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM A VALID REASON TO DO ARE SICK!

AND YET YOU, AND YOUR FELLOW LITTLE RETARDS DO IT

THUS. YOU AND THEY, ARE DOUBLE STANDARD HYPOCRITES!

————————–

3. Boldly asserting that their is a well established plan to hide the benefits of a health product- that people are purposely hiding the facts in order to financially profit- is a conspiracy theory. It is false.

MORE TOTAL BULL SHIT!

I SUBMIT YOU REALLY SHOULD TAKE A COURSE ON HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS.

( AND IF YOUR LISTENING SKILLS AS POOR AS MOST PEOPLES, WHICH IS LESS THAN 23% COMPREHENSION, TAKE ONE TO IMPROVE THEM AS WELL. )

WHEN I, AND/OR ANYONE ELSE, USE THE WORD “IF” AS I DID, THEY ARE NOT “BOLDLY ASSERTING” A DAMN THING. THEY ARE SIMPLY SAYING IT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY!

YOU DO KNOW WHAT THE WORD “MAY” MEANS DO YOU NOT?

YOU NEITHER HAVE ANY PROOF IT IS FALSE, OR HAVE THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF ANY VALID EVIDENCE IT IS FALSE.

BUT THEN, YOU REALLY LOVE TO
“BOLDLY ASSERT” THINGS ARE FACTS WHEN YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE.

QUITE TO THE CONTRARY, ALL YOU HAVE IS YOUR EXTREMELY LIMITED, (ACTUALLY ZERO) KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUBJECT AND YOUR ILLOGICAL ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT IT!

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“You believe it in spite of facts to the contrary.”

FYI THERE ARE NO FACTS TO THE CONTRARY. AND YOU ARE AGAIN DOING WHAT YOU DO SO VERY OFTEN, YOU ARE ASSUMING THINGS YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FACTS TO BACK UP.

So, yes, you spouted conspiracies on my blog. You did it in a post that was essentially a eulogy to someone I respect deeply. It was inappropriate.

BULL SHIT!

FOR THE MANYTH TIME, I EXPRESSED
MY CONDOLENCES ON HIS DEATH. THEN I SHARED BOTH GENERAL AND GENARIC FACTS ABOUT NOIN JUICE
WHICH, IF IT IS USED, SO OTHERS MAY BE SPARED THE SAME FATE!

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4. I will summarize your claims about Noni, and about TNI, in my next two posts. You will forgive my deliberation, but I’m trying to be as thorough as possible. Isn’t that exactly what you wanted?

YOU CAN SUMMARIZE ALL YOU WANT & BE AS THOROUGH AS YOU WANT.

YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE THE TRUTH IS NOT TRUTH. OR THAT ONE THING I HAVE SAID IS NOT TRUE!

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LAST, ATTENTION ALL YOU RETARDS

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance.

That principle is condemnation without investigation.”

Herbert Spencer

—————–

“To condemn without investigation is
nothing but sheer foolishness.”

Ben Franklin

THIS IS FOR ALL YOU PEA BRAINS WHO ARE TOTALLY TOO STUPID TO HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN BEING A “SKEPTIC” AND BEING WHAT YOU ARE, CLOSE MINDED FOOLS!

HERE IS SOME OF THE PROOF I AM CORRECT AND ALL YOU MENTALLY CHALLENGED IMBECILES ARE VERY WRONG!

DUH!

(FYI IDIOTS THERE ARE MANY PAGES LIKE THESE.)

———————–

Noni: The Complete Guide

by Scot Nelson and Craig R. Elevitch

Written for the general public, but based on current scientific research! Noni: The Complete Guide for Consumers and Grower

http://www.nonithecompleteguide.com/

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NONIRESEARCH.COM

NoniResearch.org provides you a with comprehensive look at research done on
the noni plant (Morinda citrifolia) and showcases the history and botanical …

http://www.noniresearch.com/

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Noni Research

Published Scientific Research and Abstracts on Morinda citrifolia (Noni or Indian Mulberry) One new iridoid glycoside (defensive compounds produced by plants)

http://www.noniresearch.org/…/research/published_2001_to_2005.html

YOUR RIGHT GEORGE! I AM SICK!

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF CLOSE MINDED ASSHOLES LIKE YOU WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHEN SOMEONE POSTS SOMETHING TO HELP OTHERS IS A GOOD THING AND NOT A BAD ONE.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF MENTALLY CHALLENGED FOOLS LIKE YOU WHO ARE TOO RETARDED TO KNOW THE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN BEING A “SKEPTIC” & BEING A CLOSE MINDED RETARD.

I AM SICK AND TRIED OF IMBECILES LIKE YOU WHO ASSUME OTHERS HAVE THE SAME LOW MORAL STANDARDS YOU DO.

AND I AM SICK & TIRED OF COWARDS WHO HIDE BEHIND SCREEN NAMES WHILE ATTACKING OTHERS & WHOSE ACTIONS PROVE THEY HAVE NEITHER HONOR OR INTEGRITY.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF SHIT EATING PUNKS LIKE YOU AND THE OTHERS FOR ATTACKING AND INSULTING ME FOR NO VALID REASON IN THE FIRST DAMN PLACE.

LAST, YOU IDIOT TROGLODYTE, YOU CAN NOT NOW, AND YOU NEVER WILL BE ABLE TO PROVE EVEN ONE THING I HAVE SAID ABOUT EITHER NONI JUICE OR MYSELF ARE NOT THE FACTUAL TRUTH ANY MORE THAN YOU CAN PROVE THERE IS NO SUN IN THE SKY FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THEY ARE TRUE.

SO KISS OFF, YOU RETARDED NERD!

THIS ASSHOLE COWARD DARWIN, WHO WORDS PROVES HE HAS NOT EVOLVED AT ALL, SEEMS TO NOT KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE LIST THE THINGS THEY HAVE DONE. ACTORS AUTHORS, ATHLETES, AND MANY, MANY OTHERS DO IT.

EXTREAMLY TRUTHFUL PEOPLE LIKE ME ALSO DO IT.

ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY HAS A FULLY FUNCTONING BRAIN KNOWS DOING SO IS NOT A NEGATIVE.

AND OF COUSE, A PERSON LIKE DARWIN WHO HAS NEITHER ANY HONOR OR INTEGRITY, DOES NOT MENTION THE PEOPLE WHO SAY VERY POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT ME AS HE HAS NO INTEREST IN BEING HONEST OR FAIR.

SO TYPICAL OF LOW LIFE COWARDS SUCH AS HIMSELF

I AM FAIRLY SURE DARWIN IS ONE OF THOSE WHO LEAD MUNDANE BORING LIVES, WHO HAS NEVER RECEIVED ANY AWARDS FOR HELPING OTHERS HAS NEVER SAVED OTHERS LIVES, NEVER STOPPED ANY CRIMES, NEVER DID ANYTHING EXCITING LIKE BEING A PARATROOPER,A DEEP SEA DIVER OR LIVED IN 3 COUNTRIES, 10 STATES AND 20 CITES. WHO HA S MOST PROBABLY NOT EVEN LAID THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF WOMEN WOULD BE VERY JEALOUS OF ME.

THE POOR LITTLE RETARDED THING.

HE IS SO STUPID HE EVEN THINKS MY SAYING SOMEONE WHO COMES TO DO ME HARM IS IN DEEP DODO IS THE SAME AS SOMEONE SEARCHING HIM OUT TO DO HARM TO HIM.

AND SO IT IS JUST FINE FOR HIM TO BE A WORLD CLASS COWARD AND HIDE BEHIND A SCREEN NAME WHILE ATTACKING & LYING ABOUT OTHERS.

HE, YOU AND THE REST OF YOUR ILK ARE JUST INSIGNIFICANT, TOTALLY USELESS JEALOUS LITTLE PUNKS!

Ah, George. You may have decided to raise the tone of this thread, but I see that Neil hasn’t. This is the proof of trolldom. It’s very tempting to get into a pissing contest, which of course is what a troll desperately wants. He lives for attention. If he can’t get it by being a nice guy, he’ll get it by being a jerk. He doesn’t accept my reasons for being anonymous, but sees my defense of this as an indication of weakness, a sore point he can exploit. If he only knew. If only I could tell him. But he is a troll, and we really do need to stop feeding him.
I read your comments after each of his endorsements for noni juice. Spot on. Not one of the endorsements means anything. I think my comparison to scurvy being cured by orange juice is an interesting way to think about such endorsements. Think back to the days before Captain Cook, the days before anybody knew what caused scurvy. A sailor on the verge of death from scurvy, with bleeding gums and teeth falling out, unable to so much as rise to his feet, given noni (or orange juice, or a raw onion) would see and feel an immediate and dramatic improvement. Within days he’d be completely cured. It would seem miraculous. You or I given orange juice would see no difference at all. So that sailor would run around telling the world about the miracle juice he had discovered, would possibly start a MLM company to sell orange juice, special orange juice unlike anything you could buy in the store, while you and I would simply shrug off any claims for benefits that reached our ears.
And then of course there is the famous placebo effect, which can be convincing beyond belief. There may be some benefits to drinking noni, for some people, with some specific problems. Who can say?
I am curious about whether you can turn up ANY double blind peer reviewed investigation of noni that indicates it has value. That of course is the only kind of endorsement that means anything at all. The rest is just MLM marketing hype and only the gullible give it any credence. An endorsement by an athlete has the same value as an endorsement for a specific brand of toothpaste.
Peer reviewed double blind investigations are expensive. They are never done by MLM companies, ever, for obvious reasons. If you find a double blind peer reviewed article on noni, I would really like to hear about it. I suspect such an investigation has not been done. The juice simply doesn’t show enough promise to warrant the time and money.
Maybe Neil can point you at such a double blind peer reviewed investigation, rather than the anecdotal and meaningless endorsements he has provided. Can do, Neil?
By the way, I’ve done my time with MLM, a whole year of being lied to and bamboozled by well intentioned believers who were all into “fake it until you make it” while I ran around desperately convincing friends and family that I had lost my mind. It was embarrassing when the scales fell from my eyes, but I understand the psychology and the manipulation. Nobody likes to admit they’ve been a fool. We are all social creatures. We are all vulnerable to memes and delusions. Few people get to my age without a stack of some product or other moldering in their garage. No need to get mad at the MLM people, except for the cynical bastards at the top. A tolerant, knowing smile is more appropriate.

AS FOR POOR DELUDED DEMENTED AND DUMB DARWIN, “THE COWARD”.

SO YOU FAILED AT MLM AND YOU BLAME THE COMPANY YOU WERE IN, OR MORE LIKELY, AS SOME OF THE OTHER MLM FAILURES HAVE, YOU BLAME THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY.

OF COURSE, YOU DO NOT BLAME WHO IS MOST PROBABLY ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FAILURE. YOU CAN SEE WHO IT IS ANY TIME.

JUST LOOK IN THE MIRROR!

THE REASON RETARD, MLM IS NOW BEING TAUGHT IN COLLEGE IS KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE (THIS SURE LEAVES YOU OUT) KNOW MLM GIVES ONE A MUCH HIGHER POSSIBILITY OF SUCCESS THAN DOES A TRADITIONAL BUSINESS.

AND IT DOES SO FOR MANY TIMES LESS START UP AS WELL AS GOING COSTS.

AND THERE BEING MANY OTHER REASONS MLM IS SUPERIOR TO BEING EITHER AN EMPLOYEE OR EVEN OWNING YOUR TRADITIONAL BUSINESS.

IN FACT, ASIDE FROM EARNING MONEY IN A LINEAR FASHION AS AN EMPLOYEE and/or BUSINESS OWNER DO, THOSE IN MLM ALSO EARN BOTH RESIDUAL & LEVERAGED INCOME.

AND THERE ARE OVER 30 OTHER REASONS WHY MLM IS BETTER.

YOU FOOLS CAN RANT & RAVE ALL YOU WANT ONLY YOU WILL NEVER PROVE THE COMPANY IS NOT LIGITIMATE AND NONI JUCIE DOES NOT DO WHAT I SAID IT DOES!

“I just received a long letter from Neil”

BULL SHIT, IT WAS NOT “LONG”

“It list his many accomplishments and experiences,

WRONG, IT LISTS SOME OF THEM

“and almost screams his need for attention and approval.”

I DO NOT NEED EITHER OF THEM.

“The bragging and chest thumping are truly pathetic.”

IF YOU HAVE DONE IT, IT IS NOT BRAGGING, IT IS FACT.

AND YOU HAVE MOST PROBABLY NEVER DONE ANYTHING GREAT ANYWAY.

“The more he reveals himself, the more convinced I am that he is a very sick man who needs help.”

AND YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL IN THE FIELD?

THE ONLY THING THOSE WHO ARE HAVE TOLD ME IS I AM AN NICER PERSON THAN I LET ON, I HAVE A GIFTED LEVEL IQ AND NEARLY TWICE THE ABILITY TO USE IT MORE EFECTIVELY THAN MOST.

LAST RETARD, THE MANY, MANY ANIMALS, REPTILES, BIRDS AND OTHER MAMMALS WHICH NONI IS RESPONIBLE FOR HELPING HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT ANY “PLACEO” EFFECT,

SO AS USUAL, YOU ARE AGAIN PROVEN WRONG!

Truly Intelligent and Logical people (which certainly leaves all of you retards out) know a 20 year old knows more than does a 10 year old and knowledge increases with age.

DUH!

They also know a person who only lives in one limited area, knows less than those who have lived in more than one area. And generally, those who have attended more than one school know more then those who have not.

A person who has had more than one type of interests knows more than those who have less areas of interest and those who have had more different professions has more knowledge than those who have not.

While no two people are exactly alike, there are still averages and most people fall within these averages.

The AVERAGE American is born, raised, schooled, employed and die within a 100 mile radius of where they were born.

The average person born in the later years of the baby boom held 10.8 jobs from age 18 to age 42,

(I had six very different jobs while in high school as well as National Guard training for 2 summers. Hell, by the time I was in the 7th grade I’d lived in more places, at higher altitudes, traveled more and done so by more different cars, planes, trains buses, ships & mules, than many of you will ever do in your entire lives.)

With nearly two thirds of these jobs were held from ages 18 to 27. (The above on jobs is according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor.)

And while those are different jobs, they
may not have been jobs in different field.

SO CHILDREN WHEN I RELATE ALL THE PLACES I HAVE LIVED, SOME OF THOSE PLACES I’VE TRAVELED TO, SOME OF THE MANY DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS AND MANY VARIED EXPERIENCES I HAVE HAD, IT IS TO INFORM YOU THE ODDS ARE VERY HIGH, I HAVE ONE HELL OF A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE ON MORE THINGS THAT MOST DO.

DUH!

As truly rational and intelligent people know the above makes logical sense, (unlike all of you) they do not say the idiot & stupid things about my listing the some of the things I have done.

Only idiots & losers who can not logically or rationally best me would stoop so low as to say someone is crazy for not putting up with uninformed, illogical, lying retards such as yourselves.

Last, I may check with some good very smart and successful lawyer friends to see if I can sue you for those comments about my mental health.

but yah are, Blanche, ya are “putting up with uninformed, illogical, lying retards such as (y)ourselves”

every time you post, you are seeking out that very company to put up with

Blanche….

The reason CHILD, that I KEEP posting is three fold.

1. I like pissing off idiots, assholes and retards like those who open their stupid mouths on subjects they know extremely little to nothing about. With Noni Juice being a perfect example

2. Some of what I post may make past the barriers and into their thick heads.

3. And from 13 years of being on the net, I know, every once in a while, some person who actually has a fully functioning brain, and who is able to think both logically and rationally, contacts me and we become net friends.

They then join the around 400 of those I have sending and receiving email’s from. In fact, while some 80 of them are from my home town and whom I went to HS with, most of others have been my net friends for many years.

AND, there may even be one or more who read my posts who can understand my anger & frustration at being attacked for my simply attempting to share information
about something my use and study more than proves to me not only really helps all people, it does the same for all other mammals, animals reptiles and birds.

My doing this is most certainly not a valid reason for ASSHOLE like George W. to attack me or for the unevolved Darwin to continally make nasty comments about my mentaly health.

People who are going to make negative comments about others should have the integrity honor and the morals to use their real names as I do. (Or they should keet their low life coward mouths shut!)

you’re like every other fanatic

you seek followers, not thinkers

but you call thinking what those who follow you do

to maintain your delusion of competancy

AND YOU RAMDOM, ARE A IGNORANT ASSHOLE WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHILE THINKING YOU ARE SO COOL. JUST ANOTHER TOTALLY CLUELESS PUNK WHO WOULD NOT MAKE A PIMPLE ON MY ASS.

YOU CHILD ARE AN INSIGNIFICANT LITTLE PISS ANT, A PUSS SUCKING, LOW LIFE, NO HONOR, NO INTEGRITY COWARD WHO HIDES BEHIND A SCREEN NAME WHILE ATTACKING AND INSULTING HIS BETTERS!

Seriously Neil, get some drugs from your doctor, or stay on the ones you’ve already been given.

Sure Neil. Show your smart lawyer friend your letters and mine. I’m sure he’ll take your case. Shaking in my boots here. Gosh, I could lose everything I own.
Oh there I go again, reacting with sarcasm instead of compassion. Sorry. I can do better. Neil, instead of talking to a lawyer, why don’t you talk to a mental health professional first. That will tell you whether you have a case or not. Seriously. This is a good idea.

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I HAVE TRIED, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, TO POST ALL KINDS OF LINKS ON NONI JUICE RESEARCH AND PROOF NONI IS A MIRACLE! AS THEY HAVE NOT POSTED, YOU RETARDS, IF YOU ARE CAPABLE OF GOOGLING, THAT IS IF IT WILL NOT STAIN YOUR ITTY BITTY BRAINS, CAN GOOGLE NONI JUICE RESEARCH, AND SEE I’M CORRECT.

As I do not suffer fools / liars lightly & supposedly intelligent fools even less, because I call a spade a spade and do not mince words, some Retards who post here say I am crazy.

A REAL CRAZY person is the idiot and those of his ilk who says he’s going to PROVE one of the fastest growing and most successful companies in the USA, with sales in the many, many BILLIONS of dollars is a scam.

This Retard is so Deluded he thinks he can prove that not only the company who sells many Billions of dollars worth of NONI JUICE and the THREE HUNDRED some other companies who sell their own brands of Noni Juice are ALL wrong and HE is right

And this CRAZY IDIOT says he is going to PROVE Noni Juice, a natural healing miracle, which has been very effectively used by generation after generation in country after country all around the world does not actually work.

This RETARDED FOOL thinks he’s going to PROVE this miracle which has been researched by universities, private firms
and the government, which has clinical trials PROVING it IS effective is a scam.

This Mentally Challenged ding bat thinks the many, many doctors as well as all the other health professionals who not only prescribe Noni Juice to others,including their own loved ones, as well as drinking and using it topically are all wrong, and he with his extrealy limited knowledge of it & his absoutly no experiencd with it is right.

Well Children, anyone who believes as he and his little retarded friends do are the ones with the REAL Mental problems. He and they are the REAL NUT jobs.

He, as well as all of the idiots who agree with him, ARE the actual ones who should seek professional help for their mental problems.

And last, TIME is on my side because as more of it passes, more and more others
find I am right, more and more research will back what I say about Noni Juice is true.

And poor Retarded GEORGE W. “et al” are those who are totally wrong!

George W. I suggest you take a look at Greta Christina’s comments policy, and then review your own. http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2011/09/09/comment-policy/
We have tried to be reasonable with this guy. He has nothing to say. His idea of arguing is to use foul language and cuss and swear at commenter. Isn’t it time to ban him from your blog? Trust me, we’ll all cheer. He seriously deserves it.

THE EPITOME OF STUPIDitY IS WHEN
POOR DELUDED, DEMENTED DARWIN SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF:

ENDORSEMENTS FROM HIGHLY QUALIFIED SCIENTISTS AS WELL AS SUCCESSFUL DOCTORS DO NOT MEAN ANY THING!

WHAT A TOTALLY RETARDED STATEMENT THAT IS OH COWARD DARWIN!

AND ALL OF YOU BUTT BREATHS, AS THE ODDS ARE ABOUT 100% I HAVE DONE MANY TIMES MORE GOOD THINGS TO MAKE OUR COUNTY & THE WORLD A MUCH A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE THAN YOU HAVE, THEN THE WORLD WOULD BE MUCH BETTER OFF WITH MANY MORE OF ME AND NONE OF YOU.

DUH!

HEY DEMENTED DARWIN AND LIAR GEORGE, WANT TO COMPARE GOOD THINGS DONE FOR OTHERS?

OR, IS ALL YOU CAN DO IS KEEP REPEATING YOUR UNQUALIFIED
AND INSUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS AS TO MY SANITY?

Neil, I get that you are highly intelligent and very accomplished. But are you happy? Wouldn’t it be nice to let this anger go and smile at the world, instead of intentionally trying to annoy and anger people. Wouldn’t that serve your purpose better? If you think about it, I’m probably not dumb, and neither is George retarded. Wouldn’t it be better to engage us on a pleasant conversational level? Wouldn’t that just feel better?

I’ve explained why I am anonymous on these forums. It allows me to say what I think without putting myself or my family in danger. That’s a real danger, Neil, as the number of murder victims and bloggers who have been forced into hiding will attest. Certainly I don’t flatter myself that I’m important enough to attract any violent nutters, but one never knows. Do you think Kurt Westergaard thought he as important enough that somebody would try to kill him with an axe in front of his grand daughter? Do you think he expected his cartoon to provoke somebody to attempt his murder? If in your opinion this makes me a coward, then I disagree. But continuing to provoke me by calling me a coward every time you mention my name seems rather pointless, don’t you think? I heard you the first time.

The abusive tone of your messages only makes you look bad. In fact, it makes you look mentally ill. That’s not the same as crazy. A person who intentionally pollutes his social environment with aggression and abuse may not be technically crazy, but you could hardly call him mentally healthy either. It’s just not a healthy thing to do.

I do not know what your emotional needs are. But really, you need to examine your behavior and decide whether it is serving your purpose. If your sole purpose is to get attention, which it seems to be at this point, we do have the option of writing you off completely and ignoring you. George could ban you from this forum. I could block your emails. Will that get you what you want? Do you make a lot of friends this way, by calling people names and acting like an offensive crank?

There is another road you could have taken here, Neil. Imagine the result if you had responded to George W. rant about you spamming his eulogy with a pitch for your product, not with vitriol and abuse but with a sincere apology. You didn’t intend to be offensive. You never thought George would find you offensive. You just believe in the power of noni juice and were shocked by the abusive reaction you provoked. Gosh, George, I’m sorry. No need to call me names. I just wanted to tell people about something I think could help them, and I wasn’t really selling it, just telling people about it. And I see now that it was inappropriate. But if you investigate noni juice I think you will understand why I did it.

It would have been so easy for you to take the high moral ground and make George look like a ranting fool.
But no, you respond by calling George retarded and get nobody at all on your side. This is not behavior I would call intelligent, Neil.

Really, Neil. You are 76 years old. Isn’t it time to think about these things? What kind of a world are you trying to create for yourself? What kind of social interactions do you really want? What is your purpose, and do these messages of yours further it in any way?

DO YOU EVER USE YOUR HEAD FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN A PLACE TO GROW HAIR AND SHOVEL FOOD?

YOU ARE ONE STUPID ASSHOLE

“We have tried to be reasonable with this guy.”

THAT IS A BOTH A LIE AND TOTAL BULLSHIT!

THIS ENTIRE THREAD WAS STARTED AS AN ATTACK ON ME AND WAS FILLED WITH INSULTS AND LIES

EVERY PERSON OTHER THAN THE LADY WHO POSTED AFTER I HAD SAID TO HER:

“I AM FORWARDING OU THIS AS I MENTIONED YOU IN IT, ONLY NOT BY NAME”

HAS ATTACKED AND INSULTED ME!

YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF RIGHT AND WRONG OR OF BEING FAIR!

FYI RETARD THOSE WHO ATTACK & INSULT FOR NO VALID REASON ARE DAMN WELL GOING TO BE ATTACKED AND INSULTED BACK!

DUH!

“He has nothing to say.”

TOTAL BULL SHIT AND A LIE

SO LIAR, LEARN HOW TO READ YOU BRAIN DEAD RETARD!

I HAVE POSTED ALL KINDS OF VALUABLE INFORMATION

IF YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO NOT READ IT OR CAN NOT UNDERSTAND IT, IF IS NOT MY FAULT!

His idea of arguing is to use foul language and cuss and swear at commenter.

BULL SHIT

ARE YOU SO FUCKING DUMB YOU HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT NO ONE FORCES YOU TO EITHER READ WHAT I SAY OR TO EVEN GET NOTIFIED I MADE A POST?

YOU ARE REALLY, REALLY STUPID!

THE COMMENTER I JUST SWORE AT DESERVED TO BE SWORN AT AND IF YOU WERE NOT A RETARD YOU WOULD KNOW IT.

I WROTE A NICE REPLY TO HIM AND HE ATTACKED ME FOR NO VALID REASON,

OR ARE YOU JUST TOO STUPID TO FIGURE SOME THING SO SIMPLE OUT?

Darwin:
I’ll read Greta Christina’s policy, and I have to admit-to this point I have not really needed a comment policy. I’ve never had an overly abusive ranting troll. My fundamental respect for the right to say what you want makes it a difficult thing for me. I think I’ll follow the lead of one of my favorite bloggers- but with a twist.
NEIL- UNDERSTAND THIS. I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU NO MORE CHANCES TO CHANGE YOUR TONE. THE NEXT RUDE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN COMMENT MODERATION. I WON’T BAN YOU, BUT I WILL NOT LET MY BLOG BE A PLACE FOR YOUR CONTINUED ABUSE OF OTHER PEOPLE. I WILL, UPON RECEIVING ONE MORE SIMILAR COMMENT, POST YOUR COMMENTS THROUGH MY PATENTED “RAINBOWS AND PONIES” VERBAL FILTER AND DELETE MULTIPLE OR SUPERFLUOUS COMMENTS THAT SAY TH SAME TIRED THING REPEATEDLY. GOT THAT?

Dear George W. I respect your decision, and to a large extent agree. I’m no stranger to what Stephen Pinker calls “fuck patois” and do not shy away from “bad” words. (unoriginal and boring, like Neil’s pathetic excuse for eloquent profanity, is another matter) Your original response to his spamming you was not exactly what I would call polite, but as I said, I enjoyed it. A lot in fact. Anybody who, metaphorically speaking, cashes a memorial service in his shiny plaid suit to hype his product deserves whatever he gets.

By the way, I found it interesting that Neil insists he did nothing inappropriate when he spammed your eulogy. Makes my comparison of him to Fred Phelps all the more valid, wouldn’t you say. Neil may actually have a very high IQ, as he claims, but his Emotional Intelligence matches his shoe size.

Also, he didn’t have the brains to find your real name plastered all over your blog, and made the same mistake with Nina (Random Ntrygg) who is also not anonymous on her site. So that’s twice he’s been wrong about his “NO HONOR, NO INTEGRITY COWARD WHO HIDES BEHIND A SCREEN NAME” crap. You’d think the guy would get tired of being wrong and learn to check his information before shooting off his mouth. But that’s not his style, is it.

Just one last thing, please. Please consider telling Neil that nothing he posts in all caps will make it into the comments. I realize that ALL CAPS is just another tool of expression, and maybe he just doesn’t know how to capitalize in a civilized manner, but really I am very tired of the guy screaming at us, and he has said himself that he only does it to piss us all off. It’s getting tiresome and tedious.

Personally I wouldn’t give the arrogant nutter another line of comment space. But it’s your blog, to run as you see fit. Of course. Just suggestions from me is all. :-)

P.S. Confession time. You may notice that I’m again violating the first of the Four Agreements. My words are not coming from a position of love and compassion. Sorry. I’m past that now. Actually I must admit to enjoying this, so I probably would regret it if you ban his ass. I think Neil is enjoying it too. It’s the attention he craves. I’m reminded of the old saying: If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, eventually you realize that the pig is enjoying it. Being an old farm boy, I’ve always enjoyed a good pig wrestle.

Darwin,
You obviously have not met my “Rainbows and Ponies” filter. There will only be ALL CAPS in jest. There will be no rude. There will be no threats.
Rainbows and Ponies works like this:
-I put on comment moderation for the offending commenter.
-Each subsequent comment is not deleted, but translated into harmless and polite discourse with a humorous twist.
-All substantial arguments are maintained, but presented in the most delicate and dainty way possible.
-Insults are either withheld or rephrased in a way that makes you giggle.

I’ll give you an example from Neil’s previous comments:
Neil C. Reinhardt 2011/09/13 @ 7:13 am
(Admin Comment-This commenter is on “Rainbows and Ponies” until further notice)
My Dearest Darwin Harmless,
It does bequeath me to notify you that your head is a multipurpose instrument. I mention this only because you seem to be mistaken quite often, and I thought a clever quip that you have not thought thing through might break the ice.
Your previous comment seems both specious and some other synonym for false.
I must remind you that this whole conversation was wrought as a besmirching of my reputation, with what I felt were unhelpful criticisms and untruths.
Each subsequent commenter, save the delightful lady who knows me personally, has said things that hurt my feelings deeply.
I sense that this is the result of a gross miscommunication of our mutual needs.
It should be mentioned that one reaps what one sows, and if we continue to broach this subject with hostility- it stands to reason that quality dialogue will not ensue.
This seems common sense to me.
I consider your previous statements to be unfounded. I question whether you correctly understood my previous comments, since I made them in the hopes of being informative. I hope it was not my delivery that prevented your appreciation- I shall endeavor to do better in the future.
I take issue, as well, with your assertion that my language is inappropriate.
I wish to inform you that you are freed from any further burden to engage me if I have insulted you- and I wish to humbly apologize if my necessarily strong delivery has decreased your enjoyment of this blog.
I wonder if you and I have some conversation barrier.
I feel justified in the language I have used thus far- and feel it unfair that you would question my honor.
I felt, in the specific circumstance in question, that I was generous in my response and was not reciprocated in kind.
Surely, given this explanation, you would concur?
Yours,
Neil C. Reinhardt.

man, time to lock down the comments, eh?

LMFAO and shit oh dear. If Neil actually wrote like that I might like the guy. I want a filter like that one. Too fuckin’ funny.

As a heads up to Darwin and Random, I just published my brand spanking new comment policy. I hope everyone takes the time to read and understand my new commenting policy…..

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Too bad you got stuck with a multi-level marketing scam artist. A study was published the other day showing that all of these super-expensive fruit juices supply fewer anti-oxidants than eating a plain old apple. Good luck getting rid of the disrespectful jerk.

Thanks for stopping by, Monado.
If you find yourself interested in MLM or Woo Juice, you might want to check out the post I published today on MLM and the next post in this series that should be done in a week or so.
I hope you make a habit of stopping by.

Loved it. I stumbled upon your blog mainly because I am now a victim of this weird old man. god save me from this Atheist (did he tell you this also?)

Kelley,
He mentioned being an Atheist (with a capital “A” no less) more than a few times. As we all know, being an atheist makes you immediately the smartest person in any conversation. Even the Villiage Idiot will get some things right.

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(This comment has been filtered via my Rainbows and Ponies filter. You can read more here. The original comment was edited for abuse of ALL CAPS, and ad hominem.-George.)
Hello there George! I would like to question whether or not you are being reasonable and honest. I feel as though you have not given proper consideration to the good I have done for others, and in the process, have given others the impression that you have been more generous than I to your fellow man. I believe this to be a mistake, and I wish you would reconsider that position.
All my best!

Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Neil. I disagree with the position that the things you have done excuse the behaviours you exhibit at present.
In short, I don’t believe that people have a Karmic bank account where they can store goodwill and then spend it like a sailor on shore leave on insults, misdirected anger, and epithets. In fact, I don’t even believe in Karma.

Funny, that.

The problem with being a complete and total asshole is that people start to wonder if you’ve actually done anything nice for anyone in your life.

Neil makes me think of that Dustin Hoffman movie “Hero”, where the main character is such a despicable person that nobody believes he was willing to risk his own neck to save people from a plane crash.

You can’t bully people into loving you, but you can intimidate them into pretending to accept your opinion until they’re out of your presence. (Disclaimer: may not work over the internet.)

Over to you for a crazy, all caps rebuttal, Neil.

PS: I love how a spam comment dragged Neil back to this ancient thread. Methinks he’s desperate for any attention he can get, frantically hitting the refresh button on his email waiting for new posts from dozens (if not hundreds or thousands) of blogs so he can go back and yell at those disrespectful kids again.

Now, Sinned, don’t go getting yourself in Rainbows and Ponies by going all ad hom. That said, your language is a reasonable discription of his behavior thus far…


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